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Think about what happened in Canada when Rogers bought out Fido and in the United States when AT&T Wireless merged into Cingular. It reduced the number of companies providing mobile phone service in each country by just one, but the service fee skyrocketed shortly afterwards.

When the number of players are in the single digit territory and no new player can enter (at least until the next spectrum auction, which could be 5~10 years away), just one merger can make it much, much easier to create a price-fixing cartel and keep everyone in line.]]>Sep 8th 2009 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
They are MVNOs. They don't own the network, but rather buy minutes wholesale from T-Mobile, Orange, etc. and resell them.

If the players that actually own their own network collude and jack up the wholesale price, MVNOs also have to increase their prices.]]>Sep 8th 2009 4:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 5:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 6:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/geekthree/3899869990/

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What they will have to do is give back some of their spectrum as there's currently a spectrum cap for UK carriers. I wonder if that will allowed a new company to join the market?]]>Sep 8th 2009 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 4:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 5:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
T-angerine, I like it :D

Also like the friuts themselves too :P]]>Sep 8th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 5:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
flange rhymes with orange

I replaced the faulty flange while eating a fresh orange ]]>Sep 10th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
I wish google entered the UK market with a beast of a network and some awesome handsets NOT made by crappy HTC.]]>Sep 8th 2009 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
Oh and by the way, most Android phones are HTC at the moment...

Seing as 3 and T-Mobile have a cell sharing deal and now T-Mobile and Orange would merge, this could mean that the coverage for 3, T-Mob & Orange customers could get a LOT better?]]>Sep 8th 2009 3:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
Less competition can only lead to higher prices.]]>Sep 8th 2009 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
(You may need to be from t'area t'get this)]]>Sep 8th 2009 3:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
t'pub.. ha, awesome.]]>Sep 8th 2009 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=huymqjmmhwh&thumb=5]]>Sep 8th 2009 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
Anyone things in UK things will be different?]]>Sep 8th 2009 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
~joke~

;)]]>Sep 8th 2009 5:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/'o-mobile & t-orange'
'orange + purple = what?'

>>> 'Oraple' or 'T-Orable' (short for 'totally horrible' surely?)

seriously though, both of these companies are under performers, although t-mobile have new release of android on payg. orange still have a hideous track record (home broadband anyone?). this merger can only be good news for consumers.

now, what if o2 and vodaphone merged???]]>Sep 8th 2009 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 7:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Haha love it - i'm so using that in the future!]]>Sep 9th 2009 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.answers.com/sherif

What has Muhammad got to do with mobile phones...

]]>Sep 8th 2009 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 9th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
Orange is great everywhere I frequent, and it's the only network with any kind of coverage in North Wales... my Vodafone signal craps out there all the time, and I never used to bother even turning my O2 phone on it was that bad.]]>Sep 8th 2009 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/I'm on O2 at the moment and the signal is rock solid everywhere. I get full HSDPA coverage in Swansea and Reading, to a point where I'd occasionally use my old n95 for bittorrenting. It was that fast.
Before I started a new contract I was looking into the HTC Touch HD but it was only available on Orange (for a reasonable price) but the HDSPA coverage is non-existant in Swansea but reasonable in Reading. I lived at the top of a block of flats during my first year at university and 3 of my friends on Orange didn't have signal half the time, so I decided against it and just went for a CrapBerry on O2.

I don't like what Orange and T-Mobile do to phone firmwares. My friend was showing me his n95 on Saturday and it was running an Orange bastardized firmware version. All the menus were different and it was incredibly slow.

Years ago I bought a Pay&Go Samsung D900. I bought it on Orange first because it was a few quid cheaper. I switched it on and within 15 minutes I'd taken it back and bought another one on O2. Firmware was ruined and it was just too laggy.

That's my main reason for running with O2 for all this time. The most they do is whack an O2 logo on the start up screen and leave it at that. Can't argue with that, and with my N95 and ShitBerry they didn't even do that. Both came unlocked too. Happy days.]]>Sep 8th 2009 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/
I do agree with you though on the firmware issue, both T-Mo and Orange ruin fine devices with their slow buggy ROMs. I've had two MDAs in the past, both of which I've reflashed with either vanilla HTC or cooked ROMs. Currently using a Touch HD on T-Mobile (bought subsidised wth T-Mo contract from Expansys) and its great!]]>Sep 8th 2009 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/08/3g_coverage_maps/) and O2 one of the worst, for instance, but clearly that's not the case for you.

My main complaint against O2, as a customer of theirs for several years, was their craptastic "pick a random three-digit number" billing system and customer service... but that's another story.]]>Sep 8th 2009 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/t-mobile-uk-and-orange-to-merge-no-longer-clash/Sep 8th 2009 4:30AM