http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
-Happy owner of a 3G S (AT&T just rolled out 3G in my area today, so I guess I'm happy with them too right now)

@ichheissesuperfantastisch: The 3G S sounds pretty great as long as you leave the equalizer off. I don't even use my iAudio X5 or Walkman any more. I don't know if they're using the same tech in the Touch, but either way it's a step in the right direction. ]]>Sep 11th 2009 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
The last touch actually had a chip with the FM ability too! I doubt that this one will spark any more interesting in activating it, but I could be wrong...]]>Sep 11th 2009 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
Either way I don't really see why anyone gives a fuck anymore. If you REALLY want a device like the Touch with the camera I'm sure some company not called Apple, Inc makes one. Just buy something that suits you needs folks. Don't cry and scream like a three year old who can't have candy for dinner. Apple doesn't work on anyone else's time table. They don't care about deadlines. They aren't in any real danger of losing any significant market share. It's probably a fundamentally sound business move on their part to skip a semi-major rev in favor of a blockbuster rev. That's just how their game works. ]]>Sep 11th 2009 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
It's proably better this way.

I own a Mac Pro and a 3GS. I am so sick of Apple's stupid tactics. I don't want to buy a $2000 computer every two years and a phone every year because Apple decided to cut me out of some features for no real reason besides to sell me more crap. This is BS!! ]]>Sep 11th 2009 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
and to pre-emp the arguement of "just get an iphone", i got an ipod touch so i wouldnt have to deal with a monthly fee and 2 year contract.

but, it's already too late for me. i sold my ipod touch soon after hearing it wasnt getting any significant upgrades (other than processor).

good riddance to the first and only ipod i've ever owned. september 15th can't get here soon enough.]]>Sep 11th 2009 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
The iphone 3gs has actually more outdated tech them this as this has newer chips.. What should they market it as? O..M..G.. A PHONE.. so why the hell would you try and pass off an ipod ouch as a gaming machine when some of the most heavy games on the processing power are non game apps.. Oh yea did i mention ipod is for MUSIC?

No reason to not add a camera. appertain everyone was expecting one and it would have driven sales no matter the price, as i would have gotten the money one way or another *sells myself on craigslist* ]]>Sep 11th 2009 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
However, the mapps app on the Touch is absolutely crippled without GPS. Yeah I've read the posts that some touches pick up GPS like data somehow out there, but some don't, including mine. What good is sitting in my room, or Panera and messing around with maps on WiFi, if I cannot take the maps with me on the road. Why don't I just fire up my full computer so that I can print directions out.

How unbelievably practical would it be to be able to use the Maps app as a personal GPS device and take the directions with you (in an Earth-Friendly, paperless format, mind you), without having to sign up for a 2 year AT&T contract (with data)? How easy would it be to include this on the touch (not to mention that nice compass from the 3gs)?

Apple we know the whole world loves you, but please give me a GPS in my $300 Touch!]]>Sep 12th 2009 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 12th 2009 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
:(]]>Sep 11th 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
Ahh, the joy of capitalism. No features until we have all bought the last features.

I think the ultimate example is the nintendo pulse monitor, or perhaps windows ultimate, or that the iPhone 3G "can't do video"]]>Sep 11th 2009 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
Turns out it really was a hardware problem]]>Sep 11th 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/-.-]]>Sep 11th 2009 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Its good at what it does, the camera would only raise its price.]]>Sep 11th 2009 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MC118LL/A?mco=Nzk2MDg0NQ

Is apple so broke that they would have to pass the price of a camera to the customer? The zune hd 16Gb costs $229. If you ask me the extra memory cost a lot more than a camera but microsoft is absorbing the cost in order to sell more products.

Please, stop defending a stupid move on behalf of apple.
(If this double posts sorry, i submitted once but it didn't go through.)]]>Sep 11th 2009 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Pricing of a high-end laptop is not the same as pricing of a portable media player. People expect to pay a lot for a laptop, especially one with an Apple logo on it. iPods, on the other hand, are meant to be more affordable to the general masses or at least competitively priced, especially with the release of Zune HD coming up.
@cory3218
I certainly hope you see the difference between adding a calendar or a clock and adding a video camera. Things like wi-fi (easier software distribution) and bluetooth (wireless headphones) were put in to enhance the gaming/music experience on the device. A video camera, on the other hand, would do no good for their average consumer, which is why I think they decided to leave it out.]]>Sep 11th 2009 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8553834&type=product&id=1188561248598

The shuffle is more akin to a regular flash drive which is under $15 last time i checked. Do you think that the ability to play music adds $44? If it did at the most it should cost is around $40. Like this sony MP3 player:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9066404&type=product&id=1218016493868
(it even has an lcd screen).
PMP should be cheap but, as I stated apple knows people are willing to a higher price for their products even it the product has less features.

Apple controls the market for PMP's; therefore whatever they dictate people need is what they will sell. People will have to buy, because there is very little (real) competition. Apple has not enabled better sound quality on their ipods, because there are no competitors that offer better sound and is also gaining significant market share at the same time. That's why it is extremely important that Zune becomes success. If they fail the ipod may turn in to the next internet exploer. The consumer will have no choice but to use it, no matter how much it sucks (it will happen)
/rant ]]>Sep 11th 2009 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
Me I want a tricorder like in Star Trek. :p ]]>Sep 11th 2009 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/tricorder-pmp-09-wont-analyze-data-or-call-starfleet-will-lift/
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As I said when that comes along I will be excited. It does not have to look like it is in star trek...it just has to be everything in one. ]]>Sep 11th 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
1. Apple makes product
2. Public catches on because its "Chic"
3. Apple announces next big "thing" at Macworld
4. DIY'ers and Hackers discover that it could be easy to add feature(s)
5. Apple charges large amount of money which is just a feature they could have easily included in the first place.
6. Public buys 10th version of iPhone that could have been the first version

:)

]]>Sep 11th 2009 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Can they even enable it in a software update? Would they need separate FCC authorization? Is there an antenna suitable for broadcasting?
I had an MP3 player with a FM transmitter built in. It was nice, but the reception wasn't that great.]]>Sep 12th 2009 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/
This doesn't even mean that there is a software way to enable it. It just means that a bulk order of these chips is cheaper than a bulk order of b/g chipsets. Everyone needs to calm down.]]>Sep 11th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Listen to yourself.
]]>Sep 11th 2009 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/Sep 11th 2009 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/11/3rd-gen-ipod-touch-gets-torn-down-802-11n-and-possible-camera-s/2) encrypted firmware isn't a problem for jailbreakers.]]>Sep 11th 2009 8:59PM