http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bObe0YeLYoc]]>Sep 16th 2009 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Microsoft better step it up.]]>Sep 16th 2009 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
App-lack, App-laaaaaaack.]]>Sep 16th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
BTW, I expected XNA to be updated to target the ZuneHD (and what will surely be the Windows Mobile 7 platform), but didn't expect it for a couple of months once MS figured out how their unified Marketplac was going to work.]]>Sep 16th 2009 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
I know you probably want it right now, but the fact that Zune HD has European and Japanese radio settings might imply that it will soon be sold there. Or that they expect their users to be jet-setters :)]]>Sep 16th 2009 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/brierdudley/2009866507_zune15.html]]>Sep 16th 2009 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Dear self-proclaimed Windows fanboy,

You don't count market share for things a company doesn't make anymore--that would be called 'installed base'.

"How is Windows 3.1's market share for you?" sounds so ridiculous doesn't it?

Also, comparing the iPhone to established companies and platforms who sell more than one phone model at different price points is so very logical.

How's Zune's 1% market share compared to iPods, SanDisks, Sonys, and Samsungs? Yes no matter how great you think the Zune is, it still has 1% market share, whether it is better than the iPod or not.

So next time when you bash someone for mentioning market share, don't respond with more insensible stats of market share.

Thanks]]>Sep 16th 2009 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/the MP3 player with 1.2% marketshare? Certainly, it wouldn't be me. :)



]]>Sep 16th 2009 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Sure, Donald, I'll play that game :)

How's that 0.000001% marketshare working out for you guys in Apple console-land (Pippin)?

How's that 0.001% marketshare working out for you guys in the media center market (Apple TV)?

How's that 0.01% marketshare working out for you guys in the office productivity market?

How's that 0.1% marketshare working out for you guys in the server market?

How's that 7.1% marketshare working out for you guys in PC/OS land (Mac/OSX)

How's that 10.1% marketshare working out for you guys in the smartphone sector (iPhone: yes, WinMo, RIM, and Symbian all have larger marketshares, STILL)


Face it, once people wise up to the fact that iPods are not their only options in the MP3 market, and that much better units can be had for their dollar, then Apple will go back to being that same pathetic company a decade ago that was accepting handouts from MS.]]>Sep 16th 2009 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
I'm sorry, perhaps you fail to tell the difference between a post with some insight and some smarmy douche trying to flame bait.]]>Sep 16th 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Actually I was posting wih some insight, I was trying to make sure people who don't have any idea about XNA realise that this shouldn't be compared to the Apple SDK for iPhone, as it's not a fully fledged framework, and not get the wrong idea thinking that we'll end up getting these awesomely powerful 3D apps out of it, then get pissed off the flame the Zune when they realise they can't and blame it on Microsoft being stupid. Because you know it's going to happen, and it doesn't help when news sources don't point these things out >_]]>Sep 16th 2009 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Seriously, the device has been out for a day. I didn't expect to see XNA get an update of any sort for a couple of months.

You sound like the guy on the airplane from the Louis CK/Conan bit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXStPqhLmIk]]>Sep 16th 2009 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
That'll likely happen like a week after Steve Jobs dies. He's the only thing holding Apple together. ]]>Sep 16th 2009 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
*thinks for a moment* Pippin .. hahahaha]]>Sep 16th 2009 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Ohhhhhh!
Ouch!
LOL love it!

As much as I love the Zune HD, you have to admit that it wouldn't have been born if it weren't for Apple--at least not this soon. I want other companies to scare Microsoft so they too will be forced to innovate more frequently in every space they are involved.

Off subject: Is anyone else loving the online music streaming as I am? Thank you Zune team! I've been waiting for this feature.]]>Sep 16th 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Hahaha, BIG investment *yawn*]]>Sep 16th 2009 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Anybody look at microsoft's?
xD]]>Sep 16th 2009 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
I'm downloading the extension as I type this. I'm very excited.]]>Sep 16th 2009 8:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
How well were the apps when the iPod Touch came out? I can't imagine it was any better than this.]]>Sep 16th 2009 8:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i-YCMj9L-g

Well they were pretty darn good.]]>Sep 17th 2009 5:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Unfortunately, Zune HD is competing with today's Touch, not the Touch of two years ago. MS needs to get a proper SDK now. I think the Zune has a very small window of opportunity to cut into the iPod marketshare. The problem is MS moves too slow to take advantage of it. ]]>Sep 16th 2009 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Any early, jailbroken iPhone 2G adopter will tell you that the first apps that were entertaining were the ones that gave you a 10 color palette and different brush sizes. Those people know what I'm talking about... Look at where we are now: our own app store adding more and more packages everyday with better and better functionality. I see the Zune HD with all its capable of doing becoming the next platform for the dev community.]]>Sep 16th 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
Can I have one of these and a Sprint Hero for Christmas?]]>Sep 16th 2009 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
The framework IS powerful, extensible, and easy to code in. Just because they have not released the API's for use with the ZUNE compile tag is probably because they are still finalizing the code behind it. I'd give it about 6 months and they will fully release all the APIs.

The exciting part, is that moving existing code bases over from the original zune to the new zune will be easy. It also means that you don't need to learn a new language or framework in order to do the coding. In fact, any one who has prior .NET experience can make use of it.]]>Sep 16th 2009 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/
a future, proper SDK update should give us real control over the Tegra, once they have everything else in place]]>Sep 16th 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/And frankly, being powerful enough for 2D games isn't saying much :P]]>Sep 16th 2009 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-releases-xna-update-for-zune-hd-developers-multitouch/Sep 16th 2009 9:00AM