http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/ Engadget Comments for Navigon adding live traffic to iPhone navigation app, asks 'TomTom who?' http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
I love Navigon's software-only approach. It works great with my 3GS in and out of my car. TomTom can take its overprice mount and stick it.]]>Sep 17th 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
This statement would be easier to accept with confirmation of the price of the TomTom mount. However, I disagree with the thrust of your argument that a mount is not necessary. I think one is almost vital but whether it has to be TomTom's or another solution is open to debate.]]>Sep 17th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
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Ecspecially AT&Ts. They are advertising it heavily but there is no way they are getting another 10 bucks from me every month.]]>Sep 17th 2009 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
For the app size its where living in a country like Australia really wins. Our nav apps are only 250mb. i have games bigger than that.

AT&T bit i def. agree with.

I have the Navigon and Tom Tom apps and Tom Tom wins out with a more natural UI and more standard maps. Navigon wins out in features though. I will be buying the car adapter when it comes out, ive read it can be used with any nav app not just tom tom.

Oh and why no love for Sygic Engadget?]]>Sep 17th 2009 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/2. At up to 32GB of capacity, and probably 64GB by next year (which your app will easily transfer to), it's hard to miss 1.5GB of space.
3. You'll always have your iPhone's battery charged when you leave your vehicle.
4. Less wires and devices hanging about in your car.
5. Same app can be on up to 5 iPhones/iPod touches simultaneously, while AT&T is per device per month.
6. As competitive as the App Store is, you'll likely receive more and faster updates than with a dedicated device. GPS manufacturers would rather sell you a new unit.

The list goes on. Simplify your setup, don't be Batman like I was and have a million separate gadgets.]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/2. With an 8GB phone that is under contract for another year, I won't be getting a larger capacity one anytime soon.
3. My phone's battery is at higher risk for failure if I have to have it plugged in and charging all the time I'm driving
4. Same amount of wires, the wires for the GPS unit would replace the ones needed to have my phone plugged in all the time. Phone would be in my pocket so I wouldn't see any more devices
5. Why would I have more than one device that I wanted the app to be on? You've been arguing fewer devices and now all of a sudden more?
6. They would rather sell me a new unit, but will they do the same with apps? If they stop making money because of the apps and fewer unit sales they'll probably start charging for updates.

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1. So you'd rather lug your GPS around as well as your iPhone instead of just your iPhone which you would carry around everywhere anyway?
2. The GPS apps only take up ~1.2GB of space at most. You'd still have plenty of storage space on there. And you must not be serious about storage space or else you wouldn't have bought the lowest capacity phone.
3. The iPhone, like the iPod, uses a lithium ion battery which doesn't suffer the "memory" issues you've experienced with other batteries on things like camcorders and other cell phones. Lithium Ion batteries actually are the opposite - they work better when "topped off" and work poorly when fully discharged, so the iPhone has a relay which kills power to the phone before the battery is 100% drained (so even when the phone says the battery is dead, the battery's not 100% dead).

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/ask-ilounge-5-9-08/

(This one's not your fault, most people don't know this)

4. No additional wires for those of us who already use a car charger is what he meant.
5. Some of us have wives with iPhones of their own.
6. Well Navigon already charges for add-ons - the one this article is about is $20, for example. But you win in the end because you get more features (as opposed to a TomTom, where you have to pay monthly fees or just buy a new unit)]]>Sep 17th 2009 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
Depends where you're going. Going to work? Put the unit in your desk. Going home? Take it inside. Going in a store - well most cars don't get broken into if you don't leave products in plain sight, ever heard of your glove box.

Well, yes, the iPhone uses a Li-on battery, as has any phone manufactured in the last few years. Yes, they don't suffer a memory effect, but, they do suffer when they are left on the charger. Having it plugged in all the time while driving will destroy the battery, just like leaving it on the charger at home hurts it. If you don't have it plugged in we all know the battery will drain quite rapidly, and again, we all know there are limited numbers of charge/discharge cycles

(This one's not your fault, most people don't know this)


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There are MANY things which would save us alot of dough if we were only charged when we used them.]]>Sep 17th 2009 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Btw, load time on 3GS is helluva lot shorter than on 3G... ]]>Sep 17th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
Google Maps has traffic also and its free... doesn't help with the reroute..but its free and you can manually reroute any gps system if you know what traffic is like based on the overview from google maps.]]>Sep 17th 2009 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Just saying.........]]>Sep 17th 2009 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
I know this is a pointless request, but please don't post useless comments like this. It isn't about the original topic, is only tangentially related, and is really just your lame attempt to inject the Pre into a conversation that isn't about the Pre at all. I hate when people do the reverse (i.e. insert the iPhone into a post about the Pre or the iTouch into a post about the Zune HD), and I hate it when you did it too.]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
I've been doing a lot of research on this (I'm in the market for a new phone very soon, and it has pretty much come down to the iPhone on AT&T and the Pre on Sprint), and there are definitely a lot of quality apps on the App Store along with a whole lot of junk. It is unfortunate that there are so few apps for the Pre right now, it basically means someone like me who is trying to decide has to wonder if the Pre will ever get enough developer support to make the Pre a truly comparable device (which it otherwise is).]]>Sep 17th 2009 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
I'm inclined to suggest waiting another 6-months or so, if you can, to see if the Palm WebOS platform takes off or not. At the moment it is too early to really tell. If I had to choose a platform right now then it would be the iPhone simply because it is clearly going places but it is perfectly possible that the WebOS platform will also do well enough. However, if Palm already has applications to do what you want now then there is nothing to stop an immediate purchase. Mind you, it would help if Palm actually gave you the means to browse their current application catalog as I am sure that there must be more than the 12 listed on their website.]]>Sep 17th 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Primary reasons:

1. Garmin was very stable which both these get 'lost' pretty often
2. Garmin has a built in Google search for POIs along with the 'offline' POI search. Very helpful.
3. Garmin had free live traffic
4. Garmin would lookup gas prices in nearby gas stations and sort it by distance

I wonder what tomtom and to a lesser extent navigon have been thinking while trying to create such a high profile product.]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://gpsobsessed.com/garmin-iphone-app-coming-in-september-nuviphone-in-q4/
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Did you READ the article you posted???

It's a Pilot flight app that mostly concentrates on weather conditions.


*scratches head in confusion*]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
Don't bet on it. Garmin has a vested interest in the nuvifone with Asus. That said, I am sure that stranger things have happened...]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Have not had to pay any fees to Garmin.
As for the map updates,it was kind of single click so am not sure of the frequency. I never really had problem of outdated maps and for POI, would primarily use the built in google POI search.

If Garmin is waiting for the nuviphone and thus not launching an app for the iphone then it is a foolish move. Most new mobile phones have GPS and by not actively participating in the market, they are handing over the game to the likes of tomtom and navigon.
If the idea is that Nuviphone will offer a 'better' GPS experience as it USP, then Garmin is a few years behind in their thinking. The GPS functionality can improve but will no longer be the primary reason for someone buying a phone.]]>Sep 17th 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
"The app, from Garmin subsidiary Digital Cyclone, is a flight planning effort called Pilot My-Cast that will be coming to the App Store in September for American and Canadian iPhone/iPod Touch owners."

My car has some decent speed. But it doesn't have wings and can't stay airborne for very long. ]]>Sep 18th 2009 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/
Sounds like a great idea]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Sep 17th 2009 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/navigon-adding-live-traffic-to-iphone-navigation-app-asks-tomt/Will they go bankrupt in a week?]]>Sep 17th 2009 10:27AM