http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/ Engadget Comments for GSM Palm Pre now looking at 'autumn' launch in Germany http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
And yes, I know I'll be downranked.]]>Sep 20th 2009 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
That's an iPhone you're describing. Why not just buy one of those?]]>Sep 20th 2009 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/No voice and data at the same time (because of Sprint CDMA network) - Not Palm's fault, and this is about the GSM version
No voice dialing (WTF) - took apple 2 years
No video recording (WTF?) - ditto
No voice memos (WTF) - ditto
No visual Voicemail - wrong
No audiobook purchasing - no, but you can load your own
No true app store (60 is a joke) - took apple a year, and the SDK hasn't been out long, give it time
No podcasts - what... the... fuck... Just put the files on. Or download them direct from the browser
Crippled copy/paste (for example - you can't cut or copy a webpage or any part of it) - Been patched in the leaked update
No universal search (crippled - no e-mail search) - been patched in the next update
Tiny keyboard (iPhone landscape and portrait keyboards are bigger than Pre's real keyboard) - but some people prefer tactile feedback
No 7.2 Mbps network speed - the GSM version has it
Weak battery life - replaceable battery
More expensive than iPhone - Network dependant
No real music store (Apple can break the compatibility at any time and I don't want to take that chance) - Amazon
No Voice Commands (control music playing by saying "Depeche Mode" for example) - took apple two years
No Compass - ditto
No multiple and customizable home screens like iPhone (Pre only has one screen) - The iPhone's "home screen" is just a grid of icons. A true customizable, useful home screen is something like TF3D, but I'd take a launcher AND the cards over the iPhone's launcher
No Webclips - wrong. you can save a bookmark to the launcher]]>Sep 20th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
I suppose it depends on how success is judged. Palm is way down in both market share and profits, so I'm not exactly sure how the Pre can be spun as a success especially from a company that was top dog not too long ago. I guess you can say the Pre will be a success if it stops Palm from going out of business. Then it's only a matter of talking about degrees of success.

Up- or down-ranking doesn't mean sh!t to anyone except ex-hall monitor 'tards.]]>Sep 20th 2009 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
God, I am SO glad my 3GS has a compass. It's SO much better than the Pre. Just because of the compass.

I'm serious.]]>Sep 20th 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
With respect, defending the Pre by saying that a given feature wasn't available on the iPhone on Day 1 is kinda dumb. The iPhone was lambasted for the lack of various functions (and rightly so) but you cannot defend the Pre on these subjects - it wasn't OK for the iPhone to lack them and it certainly isn't OK for the Pre either. The fact of the matter is that the Pre, for all its good points, was ultimately rushed to market and it shows. Future versions may well sort out the issues and I wish them the best of luck but Version 1.0 just isn't good enough. Sorry.

This said, I rather wish the iPhone had never been mentioned in the Comments since this whole subject is dumb.]]>Sep 21st 2009 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Also, yahoo is supposed to be in the next update for sure.]]>Sep 20th 2009 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
.....yea

anyways when can I get this unlocked on rogers...]]>Sep 20th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
So it MIGHT be incompatlble. Shame really, because I've been waiting all this time to replace my GSM Centro.

http://www.pre-ticker.de/?p=183 (Click on “Technische Daten” PDF)]]>Sep 20th 2009 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
Between this and the N900, this fall looks like a great season for GSM smartphones.]]>Sep 20th 2009 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
Im tired of WinMo/Android phones, I want a phone that is everything about usability, not just potential for someone one day making a frontend correcty; so as far as I have seen WebOS is the one I have been wanted.]]>Sep 20th 2009 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
It was meant to be a reply to Bad Beaver.]]>Sep 20th 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/
You're going to have to stick with good old Clozraphil if you want to treat your accute schizophrenia.]]>Sep 20th 2009 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/I´ll guess I get it. It´s a cool device and you won´t see everybody having one like the iphone.]]>Sep 20th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 21st 2009 4:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 21st 2009 5:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sad but very likely scenario.


]]>Sep 20th 2009 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/who with right mind would sign up for 3 years?"

So which is it? Will they go bankrupt before the fall or not? I will note that this was before Palm announced they sold upwords of 500k webOS phones. Are you revised your opinion?

]]>Sep 20th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/20/gsm-palm-pre-now-looking-at-autumn-launch-in-germany/Sep 20th 2009 9:23PM