http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/ Engadget Comments for AMD to bring six-core 'Thuban' processor to the consumer realm http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/I really have a hard time seeing how a home user is going to benefit from having this over having a quad core processor with faster cores.]]>Sep 21st 2009 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
Right now, the OS and motherboard or dividing up the workload as it sees fit. ]]>Sep 22nd 2009 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/more watts less voltage more amps =P]]>Sep 21st 2009 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
"Correct me if I err" would be proper, though awkward as err is a bit archaic these days. What you've got is "Correct me if I [noun]".

This message has been brought to you by the flaming liberals in support of the Patriot Act.]]>Sep 21st 2009 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://xkcd.com/386/]]>Sep 22nd 2009 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
I am a Amd-Ati fan who uses Intel Nvidia products for fear if I use you product I will be disappointed

What I am trying to say is kick Intel's and Nvidia's asses already and get into gear ]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/The new 5850 beats the GTX 285 by a good 20FPS, and the 5870 just utterly rapes it.
And combined with an AMD processor, AMD FUSION kicks in and boosts FPS by a whole lot. How is a good time to go AMD AND ATI.

But still, I think Core i9 and 5870X2 will be the best gaming system ever. ]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
get a Dragon platform and then tell me how disappointed with them you are]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/As in, it will be competing with the GTX 380.]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
At least 1.7% better.]]>Sep 22nd 2009 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/but right now the 5870 is by far the best card out there, it sometimes does better than the 295, which is actually two gpu's. with my phenom II and 5870 setup, I can seriously play any game at full settings (even crysis)]]>Oct 31st 2009 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/i payed a heck load on a core 2 quad thinking itd be a good investment and now they frikin announce 6 cores? >____<

im not buying another computer unless it cant get any better >_>]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
With the Lynnfield chips, you can make a lot more powerful motherboard for less because you only need a southbridge. This not only cuts out the cost of one chip, but also simplifies the motherboard, removing a high-speed interconnect and the costs of laying out and manufacturing it.

AMD is looking backwards, making sure they can sell new chips to people who already have AMD chipsets, instead of looking forward at how they can make sure a new AMD system competes with an Intel system on performance and cost.]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
Next, doing a quick look on Newegg, P55 motherboards seem to be equivalent in price to comparable AMD-chipset motherboards, which kinda blows the "more motherboard for less" argument out of the water.

Finally, since when was backwards compatibility a bad thing? Sure, it helps those who already have AMD-based machines, but it can also help new sales too by giving users a clear upgrade path, and showing that you are committed to your platform.

Would you have gone out and bought a Core 2 Quad machine knowing that the Lynnfield chips were on the horizon, and that you would have to replace the motherboard and RAM as well as the CPU? Probably not.

On the other hand, if you knew that the Phenom II X4 system you were buying allowed you to do a drop-in replacement to the 6-core chip, with no other major changes, would you be more willing to invest in the hardware? Probably.]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
By going with a new socket(s) Intel has leapfrogged AMD in chipset design.


That wouldn't have been possible with say LGA775+. ]]>Sep 21st 2009 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Intel isn't dumb enough to lose money.

Tom & Fr0:
No, AMD moved the memory controller off the northbridge to the CPU. They didn't eliminate the northbridge. The northbridge is still there and handles PCIe and fast I/O (and GPU on some machines). Whereas with Lynnfield, the northbridge is gone since Intel moved the memory controller to the CPU a little while back and moved the PCIe controller onto the CPU with Lynnfield. And the CPU connects directly to the southbridge with a low-speed (10Gb/sec) connection. So in fact, you have it backwards.

Backward compatibility is a bad thing when it keeps you from moving forward. As happened to me with my Athlon X2 4200+. AMD didn't want to change the socket and thus I ended up with a system that only supported DDR1 when DDR2 was already mainstream. Thus, within months, I couldn't even afford to upgrade my RAM, it was cheaper to buy a new CPU, mobo and RAM then to try to get 4GB of DDR1!

Beyond that, there's no disadvantage to backward compatibility. But there's no advantage to not being able to capture new customers because your products cannot compete effectively with competitors' new systems either. And that is what AMD is in danger of.

As to the cost of P55 motherboards, they've only been out a few weeks and they are already price competitive to AMD low-end chipsets (that they kill on performance). Does that not seem like a problematic trend for AMD? Where do you think it'll be in a few weeks?

Would I have bought a Core 2 Quad knowing that Lynnfield was coming? Actually, I've known Lynnfield is coming for a long, long time now. It's easy to find this info out on the internet. But I didn't buy a Core 2 Quad. I actually bought a Core i7/920 knowing Lynnfield was coming! I would have to replace my motherboard to upgrade, but not my RAM. And yes, Lynnfield blows away my Core i7/920 (Nehelem) on price/performance and performance/watt.

Would I buy a Phenom II X4 instead? No, I didn't. The performance figures showed that would be foolish. And the performance figures per watt were extra, extra foolish. AMD coasted a long time on power by convincing enthusiast sites to compare total system power against Intel machines using power-sucking FB-DIMMs. Now that Intel dropped that and went to DDR3, there's no comparison at all. Anand found their Lynnfield system used the least power at idle of any system they have checked in years. It would have been down to perhaps as low as 60W if they didn't have a GeForce 285 in there sucking up power. It is 30W lower than AMD's chips (Phenom II X4 965 BE) at idle and 40W at speed while handily outperforming it. It is 50W lower at idle than a Phenom II X3 720 and it obliterates it on benchmarks!]]>Sep 21st 2009 10:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
That said, I'll take four for my web servers please. :P]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Apr 19th 2010 1:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
I run more than one program at a time, even if that weren't the case there is plenty of video SW that will swallow as many cores as you can feed it.


Your computer usage =/= other people's usage. ]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 22nd 2009 3:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/
I though Fluid's Dynamics, Ray Tracing, and everything that is pretty much Thread Level parallel, would benefit for any N numbers of extra cores (I dare to say that anything that benefits from SSE could be easily compiled with OpenMP to fast and dirty results with more cores, even those spreadsheet software) .Including encryption, were those Complex decoders on the K10 helped a lot.
Also more cores add more stability and security. Ask Google and it's Chrome developing group.
Being realistic, making a processor isn't easy, therefore, such things are made by smart people, people that surely know what they are doing.

But you guys, made me realize I must go back to the MIT... I fell so ignorant...

Now down-rank me.]]>Sep 21st 2009 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/amd-to-bring-six-core-thuban-processor-to-the-consumer-realm/Sep 21st 2009 10:11PM