http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/it also doesn't have blu-ray. and i notice that you are very anti microsoft. i don't think you'll fit in well around here]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
I bought a g router years ago for 5 bucks from somewhere(don't remember) and have been using ever since.

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....what?

Unless I'm completely not understand what you said, why not just plug the cable from you xbox into your cheap G router you got years ago?]]>Sep 21st 2009 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.epinions.com/review/Microsoft_Wireless_Adapter_for_Xbox_360/content_481952239236

Problem is, they've got it set up in a manner you can't beat them...you just end up buying it.

they made it so no typical USB wifi adapter works - only an ethernet bridge or gaming link


What really kills me is that someday when you shelf your 360, the wifi adapter has no more use at all because you can't use it with your laptop or desktop.

Of course you can choose to connect your 360 to your laptop and share the internet connection, but that's a tacky setup.

The wireless adapter is a product that shouldn't need to be purchased. It should be built in.

I'm thinking Microsoft will lower the price of the old adapter and leave the N modelat $100 or more. I don't see myself getting it cause if I did, I'd have to also buy a N-router. Thus far, my current Fios G router is just fine and the connection to XBL is perfect.

And the thing is black? What if you want N on your white console...jesus christ.]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 22nd 2009 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 22nd 2009 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
Because my cheap g router is connected to my cable modem router in my basement. My TV is upstairs. I'd need a very long cable. ]]>Sep 23rd 2009 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
What frustrates me is the batteries on the wireless controllers the most. Just build the $%#% rechargeable battery in instead of selling it as yet another accessory. And start tossing in the wireless adaptor on the high end SKU for the 360.]]>Sep 21st 2009 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/That way, I can buy good rechargeable batteries for it.
Or you can always just use regular batteries in case they aren't charged.

The ones that you buy from Microsoft suck.
They lose charge quickly, especially when they aren't being used in a while.
They probably aren't lithium.
I prefer good rechargeable Energizer AA's.

I'm waiting for Witricity to get going.
No more batteries.]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
My plug and play kit and its batteries still work great well over a year later. I wish the wireless controllers came with the plug and play kit, but it was well worth the purchase.]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
The Xbox was a loss leader for every consecutive season it was sold. That's due to it having built in Ethernet and a built in Hard Drive and being ridiculously expensive to manufacture.

The Xbox 360 is not only a loss leader because it was always sold at a loss (a method used to create market penetration while attempting to recoup losses licensing software) but, due to the RROD problems and the high failure rate, Xbox 360 is the greatest loss leader EVER - even moreso than all of SEGA' S systems combined.

So its obvious why they kill us on accessories.

Why include built in batteries for your controllers when you can sell a play and charge kit at profit?

Why sell a WiFi adapter for $50 when you can put it on the shelf and wait for dumb suckers (like me) to buy it at $100?

Why include a hard drive when you can make a proprietary hard drive and sell it at a 300% markup?

Believe it or not, its actually cheaper for MS to give us wireless controllers than wired because it gets us to buy the play & charge kit.

MS is a bunch of dirty corporate money whores sitting on the heads of honest software producers.]]>Sep 21st 2009 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 23rd 2009 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Again ... I'd "consider it" for that price. Doesn't mean I'd buy it.
And it's not going to be that low ... it'll probably be $100.

Look at the price of other 802.11n adapters.
Some are as low as $20, but better ones average $40.
]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/They sell loads of adaptors at $100.
Same reason Xbox live costs money when others give it away for free. Same with Windows for that matter.
Lots of people like paying for stuff. If they get it for free they don't appreciate it.]]>Sep 21st 2009 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Are you trying to be stupid or are you not understanding his point and did you even read the article.]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
Sub-par. But, that's 802.11g for you.

]]>Sep 21st 2009 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/An MS xobox team employee was interviewed about it.
I bet we will see this new adapter retail for $80.]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
Does this mean there will be an outdoor model? lol]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.netgear.co.uk/wnhdeb111.php

For 5ghz

http://www.dlink.co.uk/cs/Satellite?c=Product_C&childpagename=DLinkEurope-GB%2FDLProductCarousel&cid=1197353089323&p=1197318962342&packedargs=ParentPageID%3D1197318962321%26TopLevelPag

For 2.4ghz or 5ghz but probably only marginally cheaper than the official.

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=154416

Hard to find these but they are better than the original and cost me less than a half of the price of the original adapter.]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
The bridge in your first link is $54.49 at Amazon.]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/Sep 21st 2009 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
I will never buy Belkin again after buying a router and WAP from them.]]>Sep 21st 2009 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/
/kills self

Belkin will never make anything better than anyone else. They will make similar items that barely work.]]>Sep 22nd 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/microsoft-fesses-up-to-802-11n-xbox-360-adapter-short-on-detail/a RROD that you will have to fix by disassembling it and replacing something that made no sense to begin with. ]]>Sep 21st 2009 7:37PM