http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/ Engadget Comments for Department of Energy lends Fisker $528.7 million for Karma and Project Nina http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/


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If you plan making "chastising irrelevant posts on the internet" a habit, you're going to be pretty busy. Good luck.]]>Sep 23rd 2009 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 24th 2009 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/The Possibilities are already here.

http://www.ted.com/talks/eric_giler_demos_wireless_electricity.html]]>Sep 23rd 2009 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/
Fiska, WIN
This, Fail: http://altfuelsaustralia.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/reva.jpg]]>Sep 23rd 2009 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/]]>Sep 23rd 2009 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/The Karma is approximately the same size as an Audi A4. Karma (Karma: 4987 mm x 1984 mm x 1330 mm, compared to the Audi: 4703 mm x 2006 mm x 1427 mm). Meaning that it would be no less practical for our UK roads than any other car. I understand that the Karma is not in the same class as the A4; I used it for comparison as a 'practical' car size.

The reason I put the picture of the Reva as a comparison is more of a critique of the current state of the Electric car market in general (in the UK). The fact of the matter is, that public perception of electric cars boils down to the Reva and milk floats; and it will take the introduction of cars like the Karma to break that perception.

Also, the Reva might look practical, but the limited range is a no-go for my wife, who can easily do 60-70 miles in a day as a community healthcare practitioner (also carrying equipment).

Only with desirable cars being produced, challenging preconceptions, will the EV market grow. If I do say so myself, the Karma looks incredible, and I eagerly await it's release!]]>Sep 23rd 2009 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxV8Bf8ND4]]>Sep 23rd 2009 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/
HOW THE HELL IS THIS AN AMERICAN CAR COMPANY???? and we gave 500 million to them ???
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It doesn't matter where their investors are from (and you neglected to mention Palo Alto Investors and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers - that's Al Gore), nor does it matter where the parts are made or assembled.

If those things mattered, Apple would be considered to be a Chinese electronics company.]]>Sep 23rd 2009 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/
You noticed that too? Who'd a thunk it - right?

/did MY due diligence as an investor, LOL]]>Sep 23rd 2009 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/what if the reason ZENN just announced it won't build it's own vehicle because it is going to licence EEStor to these guys and others. the estimated 250 mile range on nina was with lithium i believe, wonder if that could be 400 with an EESU? and be quicker to charge, longer lasting...
that said, none of EESor is proven and could be a big ole hoax.]]>Sep 23rd 2009 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/

Just kidding, I don't have a mustache. I still want the car, though. ]]>Sep 23rd 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/
These loans were for American companies who would produce mass-market "green" cars in the US. Fisker fits the bill. The money is primarily going to the NINA project, which will be an affordable family car. Currently, Fisker's only product is the Karma, pictured above. Since there are no renderings of the NINA yet, it makes sense to illustrate Fisker's design and engineering prowess with their highly-anticipated plug-in series hybrid - the first such vehicle to be available on the market.

Anyway, it's a loan, not a hand-out. Fisker will have to pay it all back, plus interest, so the US DOE will actually make money on this. That should make you happy, taxpayer!]]>Sep 23rd 2009 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Sep 23rd 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/
The reason I put the picture of the Reva as a comparison is more of a critique of the current state of the Electric car market in general (in the UK). The fact of the matter is, that public perception of electric cars boils down to the Reva and milk floats; and it will take the introduction of cars like the Karma to break that perception.

Also, the Reva might look practical, but the limited range is a no-go for my wife, who can easily do 60-70 miles in a day as a community healthcare practitioner (also carrying equipment).

Only with desirable cars being produced, challenging preconceptions, will the EV market grow. If I do say so myself, the Karma looks incredible, and I eagerly await it's release!]]>Sep 23rd 2009 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/
The car bodyshape is already looking dated- in public for over 2 yrs. Would like to see it given a mild makeover now they have all that lovely Obama money- sort the grill out (is there a Law which says electric cars have to be butt ugly at the front) and the front side window profile(too low), drop in some Ferrariesque side details perhaps. This is a good looking car but it could be even better.]]>Dec 2nd 2009 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/23/department-of-energy-lends-fisker-528-7-million-for-karma-and-p/Dec 2nd 2009 6:46AM