http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/ Engadget Comments for AT&T, Google trade barbs over Google Voice while FCC listens in http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
They are both evil, as are Comcast, Cox, Verizon, etc.]]>Sep 25th 2009 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
Ma Bell is a b!tch. And an evil one at that.]]>Sep 26th 2009 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
The FCC involvemet came from Google wanting to "invite" every iPhone user to GV. That's more of a general release than an invite.

I never saw the app though, maybe you had to be invited seperate to downloading the app -shrug-]]>Sep 25th 2009 11:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 26th 2009 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
Even if it was released to every iPhone user, that still is a relatively small number of people when you look at the fact that its ONLY an iPhone. You don't have all of AT&T's other phones, nor do you have any other carrier, and that's completely forgetting land line phones.

But, lets forget all that for a second, if I release a beta, I'm not making any promises to you as a user. I'm telling you "I have this product, come try it out and see if I have any problems with it. It isn't fully working yet, but enough of it is where I can allow some people access, and it won't he a huge problem."

If I have a product that I know isn't fully realized yet, I'm not going to sink crap tons of money in it before it is fully ready.]]>Sep 27th 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 27th 2009 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
LOL!1one. So why do they block residential servers? Why block port 80 if you believe in an open an unfettered Internet? Is charging your customers more for the privilege of having unmolested ports what you consider to be inline with the FCC's four principles for a neutral and open Internet?

The FCC has had those four principles since 2005. They're just guidelines, and they're not enough. We need net neutrality legislation, such as H.R. 3458. Call your congressperson.]]>Sep 25th 2009 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
Now if that is the case, why does AT&T charge more to tether laptops to smartphones, or why do they charge smartphones more for data plans?]]>Sep 27th 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
One number for all your calls and SMS

Call screening - Announce and screen callers
Listen in - Listen before taking a call
Block calls - Keep unwanted callers at bay
SMS - Send, receive, and store SMS
Place calls - Call free within the continental US and to Canada
Taking calls - Answer on any of your phones
Phone routing - Phones ring based on who calls
Forwarding phones - Add phones and decide which ring



Voicemail transcripts - Read what your voicemail says
Listen to voicemail - Check online or from your phone
Notifications - Receive voicemails via email or SMS
Personalize greeting - Vary greetings by caller
Share voicemail - Forward or download voicemails]]>Sep 25th 2009 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
If I were Apple, I would have REJECTED Google Voice and this would be the reason why.]]>Sep 25th 2009 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
Seems to me Google wants the protection of saying its in limited BETA testing on one hand and then saying our fully functional application should be in the store on the other. ]]>Sep 25th 2009 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
I cancelled your land line and DSL service because I find I can use my old-fashioned, highly tetherable, unlimited data, WM cellphone and Google Voice to provide me with far better communications options.

As I obviously wasn't alone in my decision, you are now attempting to limit these options. Should you be successful, I would rather use two tin cans and a string than anything AT&T could ever offer me.

Kindly shove your "open, vibrant internet" up your ass, along with the fruit phone people from Cupertino, who's idea this probably was originally.

Sincerely,

Tommy Udo
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And frankly if I don't like it I simply wouldn't use my Google Voice account to make the call in the first place.]]>Sep 25th 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
Fight!]]>Sep 25th 2009 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
How? I'll never tell! ;)]]>Sep 25th 2009 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/They are not customers, they are beta testers.

The letter did nothing but exposed the fact that AT&T has been threatened by the potential profit lose due to Google voice.
And yes, AT&T expects that Apple is going to approve the app in the near future in order to save its face. ]]>Sep 25th 2009 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/That and Google Voice is still in a STUPIDLY LIMITED BETA right now. I signed up in June. Nothing as of yet. ATT can't say shit about this for now.
Now lets get back to the topic at hand....why was the app denied? Apple? ATT?

]]>Sep 25th 2009 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
FWIW, I don't use it at all.]]>Sep 28th 2009 1:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
If not, shame on Google's legal department for buying damaged goods.]]>Sep 25th 2009 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/Sep 25th 2009 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/



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This is capitalism baby, this free and open market of ours is the reason why you, or anyone else in the world gets to have all this amazing tech and product. Saying you hate these companies and slapping them in the face all the while sucking on the their teats for consumer nourishment is asinine. The only reason we are sitting in front of our computers, surfing the web and pissing and moaning about these little things is because these companies came up with the means for to do so!

Google isn't perfect, and I question their privacy and sniffing policies, but they in particular have been a friend to consumers / end users offering so many free services that most people cannot even count them! They are NOT business friendly, they ARE consumer friendly. Offering the little people FREE stuff, while charging corporations big bucks for many of the same services.


AT&T is old school, and most carriers are hanging on for dear life to old, tired models that are no longer relevant in this era. They need a reset, but it will not come without a lot of pain and screaming. So hang in there, we are in the middle of a new revolution and in a few more years we will see a whole new ballgame when it comes to communicating and gaining access to information.]]>Sep 26th 2009 1:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/atandt-google-trade-barbs-over-google-voice-while-fcc-listens-in/
AT&T, for all it's "old school" conservatism, was the first carrier globally to actually agree to relinquish control over content and handset functionality traditionally held in an iron grip by all carriers, and by so doing has ushered in by domino-effect a new era of smartphone evolution with new paradigms like App Stores and location-based social networking etc.

That takes some foresight and willingness to take chances on an unknown future, and should be acknowledged.

This all opens up a window of opportunity for the Googles of the world to step in and move things along, but it's understandable that the carriers don't want things to move too fast, too disruptively to their current model, at least not until they've figured out their place in the next era and how to move as painlessly as possible towards it while staying relevant.

Yep, a lot of pain and screaming ahead, and these exchanges are probably only whispers, sweet talk compared to what's to come.

But it will end up with a lot of smiles all round for the consumer, for the greater good. Gentlemen, start your engines, and may the best man win...
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Do you think it's any accident that the US ranks 28th in the world in terms of internet connect speeds? Do you think it's any accident, that at the rate of current speed improvements in the US that it will still take 15 years to catch up to South Korea's current speeds?

"According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, for every $5 billion invested in broadband infrastructure to create these networks, 97,500 new jobs in the telecommunications, computer and IT sectors will be created."
http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/opinion-internet-speed-in-u-s-way-slower-than-rest-of-world

Don't talk to me about the so-called "free and open market" of capitalism in America. You've obviously been asleep at the wheel over the last decade or so.
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