http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
IMO the PS3 interface is leaps over the PS2. The thing that a lot of people neglect when buying a Blu-Ray player is that as time goes the Blu-Ray format evolves and demands more from the hardware/software loaded on the machine. A console is already a working computer so it's impossible for it to become obsolete.]]>Oct 1st 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
Although from the sounds of it, Steven is putting just those kinds of features on the purchased movie downloads. so if he could get the HD to be real 1080 and not just 720 at a decent file size, he might give this new form a run for its money. (well when broadband is decent speeds)]]>Oct 1st 2009 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/2.) Higher resolution than currently-offered methods, and better quality (picture and sound)
3.) Special features
4.) Don't have to worry about files being corrupted/accidentally erased
5.) Tangible media experience. Loading up a movie from a physical device presents an experience for some people rather like having a face-to-face conversation with another person vs an IM conversation
6.) Having a physical library to present or show off is important for some

Any other reasons, all you video-philes?]]>Oct 1st 2009 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
Bravo.]]>Oct 1st 2009 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/1.) Physical media is more reliable. It's still there if your hard drive crashes. Some day, when we can reliably rip a Blu-Ray, we'll be able to have our disc, rip it for our media presentation hardware, and be able to enjoy all the benefits of physical media, and still have a backup if something bad happens to our equipment

How is a blue ray disk any more reliable than a hard drive? In my personal experience, I've NEVER had a hard drive "crash". I have on several occasioned had optical media get scratched, or damaged beyond use. A Raided drive is basically infallible. With the age of the cloud, services like steam, will retain your ownership of digital property online. So even if your house burns down, you'll still retain all the rights to your media, you may have to download it again, but that can be done passively, and if your crib burns you'll probably have more important things to worry about than your dvd collection.

2.) Higher resolution than currently-offered methods, and better quality (picture and sound)
no, I don't believe that. How do they make the movie? It exists in a pure digital form long before it's ever stamped onto a blue ray disk.

3.) Special features
No, are you joking? give me special features that are not included in the Internet? I've seen some special features which consist of a link to a website.
4.) Don't have to worry about files being corrupted/accidentally erased
Same as #1, it's just as easy to accidentally throw disk in the garbage, or step on it as it is to erase it off your hard drive.
5.) Tangible media experience. Loading up a movie from a physical device presents an experience for some people rather like having a face-to-face conversation with another person vs an IM conversation.
This is true, I'll give you this one.
6.) Having a physical library to present or show off is important for some.
The trade off of course is you need to store that giant library somewhere, and it's a pain in the ass when you have to sift through that library to find that one movie without the help of ctr+F or "$>locate 'Hunt for the Red October.avi'"

The Fox blue ray commercials make me puke. The best parts, are when they show you a washed out image, and then compare it to the blue ray version...I'm not using blue ray now, how the fuck are you supposed to show me the difference between a dvd and blue ray on a dvd player? It's like trying Hitting someone with a wooden bat, and then hitting them harder with a wooden bat, and saying that that's what it feels like to get hit by a steel bat.]]>Oct 1st 2009 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
Xmen collection is 225gb of bluray disk (6 disks, 3 duel layered), if my harddrive holding that died I would hate to have to download it again. Even with compression the special features and master audio track would make it pretty big. With all of that though you could just keep two hard-drives around with a copy each on it, though a 100 movie library where most movies average two disks or are duel layered would be pushing 5TB uncompressed.

Computers are had to export at the 24fps which TVs use to run smoothly (however in hindsight this is invalidated by later tvs and by streaming to an xbox/ps3), also having the the computer run dolby true hd/dts hs master audio is still somewhat of an annoyance.

Also another point for physical media, it has a resell value. Without selling your whole steam account (as an example) there is no real more practical way to sell your digital content.]]>Oct 1st 2009 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
1.) How is a blue ray disk any more reliable than a hard drive? In my personal experience, I've NEVER had a hard drive "crash". I have on several occasioned had optical media get scratched, or damaged beyond use. A Raided drive is basically infallible. With the age of the cloud, services like steam, will retain your ownership of digital property online. So even if your house burns down, you'll still retain all the rights to your media, you may have to download it again, but that can be done passively, and if your crib burns you'll probably have more important things to worry about than your dvd collection.

i'll give you that one, although i've never had an optical media get scratched or damaged beyond use (except for when my DAD dropped something on my cd binder and cracked one). I take very good care of my discs. why shouldn't i? I paid for it.

2.) Higher resolution than currently-offered methods, and better quality (picture and sound)
no, I don't believe that. How do they make the movie? It exists in a pure digital form long before it's ever stamped onto a blue ray disk.

perhaps not higher resolution.....but the image and sound are of higher bitrate. before it exists in pure digital form, it exists on film, which is known to have a much much higher "resolution" than 1080p or 2K. i've watched some blu-ray rips and compared them to blu-rays on my PS3. the image quality for the most part is pretty close, but its when you get to the faster stuff, and the really dimly lit scenes that you see the differences IMO. you also tend to get a better color depth on blu-ray than on a rip. for most people audio is a non-issue, but i enjoy my uncompressed and "lossless" tracks over the DD or DTS tracks on the rips.

3.) Special features
No, are you joking? give me special features that are not included in the Internet? I've seen some special features which consist of a link to a website.

i can't say i've really perused the internet for special features, but I actually do enjoy special features on movies that I really like. sometimes, i'll actually even enjoy the BTS documentaries more than the film. and in most cases, make you appreciate the movie that much better. but i'm into thing, and i don't expect that many people to share the same interest.

4.) Don't have to worry about files being corrupted/accidentally erased
Same as #1, it's just as easy to accidentally throw disk in the garbage, or step on it as it is to erase it off your hard drive.

i don't know about you, but if i was throwing stuff away and saw a disc, i'd put it back where it should be, not toss it in the garbage. have you ever tossed a disc in the trash? but like i said above, i take good care of my discs. i paid for them, and intend to keep them all in good condition.

5.) Tangible media experience. Loading up a movie from a physical device presents an experience for some people rather like having a face-to-face conversation with another person vs an IM conversation.
This is true, I'll give you this one.
ditto

6.) Having a physical library to present or show off is important for some.
The trade off of course is you need to store that giant library somewhere, and it's a pain in the ass when you have to sift through that library to find that one movie without the help of ctr+F or "$>locate 'Hunt for the Red October.avi'"

it's called alphabetizing man. even faster than your computer can search for it.]]>Oct 1st 2009 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
I swear, the people who always seem to good for something always seem the most un-happy.]]>Oct 1st 2009 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
Let's say Wolverine, Watchmen and such.
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Blurays problem is that everyone keeps trying to add more shit to it like this instead of just making it decently priced.

If blurays came out at DVD release price most people who own a HDTV would probably pick it up.

But in the end DVD still looks and sounds great and only really movie-philes want to pay the extra premium for them.]]>Oct 1st 2009 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/One thing I noticed recently.... I used to have my cable box connected through component, as soon as I switched he source to it, the image and sound would come up instantly. I recently bought a HDMI cable for it, now when I switch it takes around 3 to 5 seconds for the video/audio to come through. That's one thing they need to either eliminate or improve where a consumer doesn't notice the delay.. that stupid handshake does nothing for the consumer.]]>Oct 1st 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
Can you imagine every app and accessory (including your car) that you bought because you loved the connectivity features all of a sudden becoming obsolete because the new iBrain (that you just HAVE to wait in line in the rain for) is not backward compatible?]]>Oct 1st 2009 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/So, what happened to the article on slow Samsung SSDs? Did Engadget censor itself? How much did that cost?

It's an important story because Samsung SSDs are commonly used in Lenovo, Apple and other notebooks (I have one) and the write speed issue is serious and needs to be addressed.]]>Oct 1st 2009 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/]]>Oct 1st 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
You can give them a competently mastered 480p recording and call
that HD and they will eat it up. It doesn't need to be a 33G movie for
companies like Apple or Netflix to start calling it high definition.

The public will buy into this. They won't catch the finer points because
they are prone to not notice them (or care) with a normal BD-ROM anyways.

It will be a repeat of MP3.]]>Oct 1st 2009 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/Oct 1st 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/fox-dreaming-of-a-future-where-blu-ray-movies-load-faster-are-j/
Say someone does setup a decent and reasonable priced product at a slightly lower resolution like 720 and for a large percentage of the audience this quality is acceptable (as well as sufficiently better than DVD) and deliverable quickly via broadband, then this could become the standard. Sure 1080p would exist for videophiles just as super-CDs and now FLAC exists for audiophiles.

I'm concerned that if blu-ray does become the standard by the time broadband catches up, hardware and movie companies will just release an even higher resolution standard and put the consumers through the mangle again.

This line of thought does have precedent, record companies were looking at higher and higher bit rate where all the average Joe wants is a bit rate slightly higher than what the player is capable of outputting and a fast and cheap way of getting it. MP3s are the standard now and the other ideas are long gone ]]>Oct 1st 2009 12:22PM