http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/ Engadget Comments for Verizon removes gloves, begins 'There's a map for that' anti-AT&T ad campaign (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
Bring the Pre to Verizon!!!]]>Oct 5th 2009 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
But, by all means, don't stop me from letting you paint with that massive brush just because Verizon doesn't have {everyone bow down and worship} -- THE iPHONE!!

Dum dum dummmmmmmmm!!!!

Whatever. Stop buying from Verizon's list of shitty phones and you won't have a problem.]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
Picked up the pre last week and have been very happy with it/sprint. Paying $15 less for a lot more (a real 3g network, turn by turn directions, NFL network live video, unlimited net/MMS/texting for $70).

]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 12:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 6:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/]]>Oct 6th 2009 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
Verizon: We have awesome coverage as long as you want a Blackberry.]]>Oct 6th 2009 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Or did that includes 1X coverage inside?

If they includes 1X, then AT&T's EDGE coverage should be included in comparison too.]]>Oct 6th 2009 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
By Qualcomm's definition, CDMA2000 1xRTT is 3G. EDGE is 2.5G. The problem is that most people relate generation with speed when generation, by definition, is a stage of technological development. Since CDMA's 3G (1xRTT) isn't as fast as GSM's 3G, people say that it isn't 3G and thus label EVDO as 3G. Verizon, though most of their network is EVDO Rev. A, are right to include 1xRTT in their 3G comparison (though obviously misleading to the definition of 3G that most consumers utilize); however, they definitely have more EVDO Rev. A coverage vs. W-CDMA/HSPA coverage from AT&T (I would say about 3x as much).]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
So really, until they upgrade the towers around here to 7.2, I don't really care. My bro has an enV Touch, and I'd never in a million years take one over even my old 2G iPhone. But I'm not an iPhone fanboy by any means. I got the 3GS because it was the best choice for browsing the web, with the Pre coming in a close second. I'm not even sure I'd switch to Verizon if it was the only carrier to get the 3GS. I hate Verizon. Good coverage with terrible service. Misleading ads about apps on the new enV's, charging for everything under the sun (VISUAL VOICEMAIL?? REALLY?!).

If I had to pick a network right now, all phones aside, it would be neither Apps nor Maps. It would be Sprint, for $70/mo. They got it right. I still hate Verizon the most though. ]]>Oct 6th 2009 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
If you are talking the Definitions,
By the definition of International Telecommunication Union,

EDGE is 3G



]]>Oct 6th 2009 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
more source: http://bit.ly/ATandT-vs-Verizon-Theres-a-map-for-that-hoax

its good to see kids fighting over a cookie jar sometimes :D]]>Nov 4th 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Exhibit a
http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/wyoming-who-cares-1.jpg
etc]]>Oct 5th 2009 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
As for AT&T, they offer 3G in every major city here, and have bumped up their coverage in a big way over the last two years. Someone should let the guys in the PR department know that their map is a sack of crap. Email? There's an App for that. ]]>Oct 5th 2009 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
do you guys have technology in alaska?? I thought it was sort of ice age times there.]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
Yeah, I mentioned that in a comment down further. Which is worth another laugh considering that they have to acknowledge the success of a phone that they could have had.

@mulerobot

From Wisconsin here, so of course I have to watch at least part of it.]]>Oct 5th 2009 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
newsflash! cities with people in them... aren't stupid!]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 6th 2009 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
(Exclamation marks. The new cruise control for cool)]]>Oct 6th 2009 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Two-thirds of the states and people have been merely spectators to the presidential elections. Candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or worry about the voter concerns in states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind. The reason for this is the winner-take-all rule enacted by 48 states, under which all of a state's electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who gets the most votes in each separate state. ]]>Oct 7th 2009 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/
When presidential candidates campaign to win the electoral votes of closely divided battleground states, such as in Ohio and Florida, the big cities in those battleground states do not receive all the attention, much less control the outcome. Cleveland and Miami certainly did not receive all the attention or control the outcome in Ohio and Florida in 2000 and 2004.

Likewise, under a national popular vote, every vote everywhere will be equally important politically. There will be nothing special about a vote cast in a big city or big state. When every vote is equal, candidates of both parties will seek out voters in small, medium, and large towns throughout the states in order to win. A vote cast in a big city or state will be equal to a vote cast in a small state, town, or rural area.

Another way to look at this is that there are approximately 300 million Americans. The population of the top five cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and Philadelphia) is only 6% of the population of the United States and the population of the top 50 cities is only 19% of the population of the United States. Even if one makes the far-fetched assumption that a candidate could win 100% of the votes in the nation's top five cities, he would only have won 6% of the national vote.

Further evidence of the way a nationwide presidential campaign would be run comes from the way that national advertisers conduct nationwide sales campaigns. National advertisers seek out customers in small, medium, and large towns of every small, medium, and large state. National advertisers do not advertise only in big cities. Instead, they go after every single possible customer, regardless of where the customer is located. National advertisers do not write off Indiana or Illinois merely because their competitor has an 8% lead in sales in those states. And, a national advertiser with an 8%-edge over its competitor does not stop trying to make additional sales in Indiana or Illinois merely because they are in the lead.

see www.NationalPopularVote.com]]>Oct 7th 2009 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/verizon-removes-gloves-begins-theres-a-map-for-that-anti-atand/Oct 5th 2009 11:12PM