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Right now, Blu-ray offers the highest video AND audio quality for movies and TV shows - so I'm all about Blu-ray. If internet downloads and/or streaming can, one day, offer the same (or better) video AND audio quality, then I'll be all about that!

What I do not like is the possibility of a lower quality source forcing the higher quality source out of the market. It happened with music and it could potentially happen with movies and TV as well!]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
IMO the added bluray quality only really matters for a small percentage of movies (maybe 5% of all movies) so I have no problem accepting lower perceived quality on a few movies to get a drastically better experience.]]>Oct 6th 2009 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 11:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 7th 2009 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
You don't have to agree with aaron, but "Lowest Ranked" seems like overkill.]]>Oct 7th 2009 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
DVD sales at the end of year 3 were indeed 128.6 million - and leapt to 311 million in year 4.

http://www.dvdinformation.com/industryData/index.cfm

EngagetHD brought us the Jan 2009 report showing 2008 Blu-ray sales at 63.2 million

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6627437.html?nid=3511

Are you seriously suggesting that there has been (in this economic climate) a 100% growth in Blu-ray movie sales?

Even the mosty selective and cherry-picked statistical manipulation couldn't get the number higher than 91% growth

( http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/07/16/blu-ray-celebrates-91-percent-sales-increase-for-first-half-of-2/ )

As I already said, with PS3 being there from almost the 1st day, Blu-ray matching DVD is hardly an outstanding performance.
I don't know why some people prefer the rose-tinted PR BS, everyone in the industry can see this and talking Blu-ray up isn't making the slightest difference to that.
They can also see that Blu-ray's improved performance is coming with ever lower margins.

By all means buy into Blu-ray if you wish - I do - but let's not be kiding anyone that this is 'the next DVD', plainly it isn't, as even the title of this thread recognises. ]]>Oct 7th 2009 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
The fact is that DVD at the end of its 4th year (which was actually 3.5yrs in) sold 128 million.
That's the actual number.

There's the benchmark and so far Blu-ray (despite the boost PS3 has given it since almost day 1 - which is completely unlike DVD & PS2 which came in late) is well behind that figure.]]>Oct 6th 2009 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/cemadvdsales.html
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Spectre's CEA numbers talk about DVD hardware sales, whereas your cited number of 128 million was for DVD software (movies, tv shows, etc) that were shipped from the manufacturer (not necessarily sold). If you look at your first link, the bottom table are the numbers that Spectre's talking about, and you're using the ones from the top table.

So, yeah, about 14 million DVD players sold and 128 million DVD packaged media shipped from manufacturers sounds about right. Definitely not 128 million DVD players sold, though, which I think was Spectre's point.

Didn't want to see an argument brew up here over a misunderstanding.]]>Oct 7th 2009 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 6th 2009 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 7th 2009 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 7th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
Consumers are perfectly capable of renting, via a variety of formats (VOD, streaming, DVD, Blu-ray) and then purchasing the few movies they really care about in the format that works best for them.

I would never buy in anything but Blu-ray right now because I want quality and an autopmatic backup on my shelf. I don;t even bother with DVD's anymore. So if its not available on Blu-ray I'll just rent it until it is. Yet I still crank up my share of Netflix's watch now service and I even rent the occasional movie in HD from Apple TV.]]>Oct 6th 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
As aaron pointed out, Blu-ray has been definitely the worst format to exist. It was half baked and it took a while, still has some work left to actaully be a truly nice working format.

I personally don't mind 1080p HDX movies or 1080p instant HD coming from Microsoft. Broadband speeds are increasing at super fast pace. I just got 60mbps DOCSIS 3.0 connection with Cox in AZ and it's like $80.. Cheaper alternatives at $50-$70 are 15-20mbps that are still enough to give you excellent HD downloads/streaming.

Somewhere along the bickering about bit-rates where nobody even mentioned this until Sony and BDA started flaunting it around as some measurement of quality (when in fact you can have HORRIBLE transfers at high bitrates as well) people seem to have forgotten that what counts first is the EXPERIENCE and the content, not whether or not I can see hairs inside the nose of an actor.

Considering that Walmart is drastically lowering the DVD and Blu-ray shelf space, and rentals are becoming more dominant among consumers instead of owning it's not hard to see how this would mean even faster rise of downloads and streaming.

@minimalist

I think that we need to get rid of optical media completely. It's not us vs them at all, it's just that optical discs are pollutant, expensive and ineffective and especially unable to grow as fast as any other technology including digital downloads.. So if it means that I'll have to watch 1080p footage at a slightly lower bitrate that still looks terrific and DD+ sound instead of 50mbps 1080p video and uncompressed audio that only like few percent of people can even experience but limit the technological advancements on account of profits, I'm all for it. Especially if we know we are saving the earth as well.]]>Oct 6th 2009 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
That is just a cheap shot. And of course it goes both ways. After all, you'll be throwing quite a few dead hard drives into landfills over the lifetime of owning those digital movies. They don't last forever. In fact, I've gone through 3 hard drives in the last 2 years alone on my home network. Strangely, I've never had a DVD or Blu-ray "die" on me. Scratches. theft and fire are far less common occurrences than a hard drive dying. And you can recycle discs if its that big of a deal to you. You can twist the fact to support just about any agenda you want.

Feel free to buy all the DRM'd low quality video you want. I'll continue to occasionally rent things in that form for convenience but I have no interest in owning any of that garbage the way its being sold right now.
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But now that I read minimalist's post, that does get me thinking. Having packaged media is nice for backup purposes (what if my hard drive crashed? I'd lose all those movies if not for me having the original discs on hand).

That's why I'm interested in Managed Copy. I can buy a Blu-ray, download a copy for my HTPC, then store the disc someplace safe. I hope Managed Copy lives up to expectations.]]>Oct 7th 2009 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://feedfliks.com/blu-ray]]>Oct 7th 2009 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/
Even so Blu Ray is here now and has no credible competition. Some day that will change but that day is way off. It's not like you would lose your Blu Ray investment even if it did happen since players will be around for decades to come, and of course you can rip the content too if you want.]]>Oct 7th 2009 4:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 7th 2009 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 7th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 7th 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 7th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 10th 2009 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/blu-ray-outpacing-dvd-adoption-will-never-reach-its-penetration/Oct 17th 2009 10:04PM