http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Maybe a Lumux
or a FacePalm

Yeah I got nothin]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Who is the best company?
Microsoft
Apple
Sony
Nintendo
Palm
All have their advantages and disadvantages


Only people who answer the last one are let in, the others can be sent to an appropriate site to them, such as TUAW for the people who selected Apple.

On the other hand, it would probably get rid of around 94% of comments. ]]>Oct 6th 2009 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/you sir are a pathetic joke.
at least please make your profile private.

*fanboy fights are things of past. hello hateboy fights!*


.]]>Oct 8th 2009 2:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
search google for: xda developers forum

you'll find all the answers you need =)]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
It's like with my FUZE. I tried half the XDA-devs ROMs - half them required just that - a hard reset every other day.
And if anyone from there's reading - Olipro - stop profiting off your frickin' Touch Pro unlocker, it's been over a year and you've probably made well over two or three thousand dollars from poor saps being REQUIRED to pay you $20 or more to use it.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
XDA-Developers
PPCGeeks

All WinMo owners should know about those 2 sites]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
If you have such an aversion for certain chefs, just download the STOCK 6.5 ROM off of XDA or PPCG.

It's not that difficult. ]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
dude, calm down. they do good work over there, i wouldn't be so quick to judge unless i could come out with something better. the donations are suggested; you don't _have_ to donate to use one of the roms. these people, however, are putting forth a decemt amount effort and there's nothing wrong with asking for a bone to be thrown their way. if you don't like the work? don't give any money. seems pretty simple.

and about the unlocking utility? they wrote it they can charge whatever they want. feel free to come up with your own if you think there should be no cost.]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/This is what has always pissed me off about win mo phones, every time a new OS comes out 9 times out of 10 you need a new device.

As the best phones always come out last its frustrating.

I know you can get Cooked rom's but they never run as well as the approved ROMs.

]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Try 1 time out of 10.

Virtually every WM phone can be updated by going to either XDA-Devs or PPCGeeks and grabbing the latest version of WM off of their, be it stock, souped up, and everything else in between.


]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Let's face it, most of those roms are just minor alterations intended to make people like WindowsFTW feel like a hacker. And all those 3rd party apps designed to make WinMo phones more like the iphone suck balls too.

But yeah, registering on a geek forum, browsing through 50 roms that all do they same thing, just slightly different, is a great way to spend your time.

We're constantly told WinMo is great for business; if you need a phone for business then you're too busy to be messing around on forums for hacks that will only cause you to hard-reset your phone every 6 hours.

Been there, done that.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
I think that is pretty obvious that anyone who a) has a WinMo phone and b) knows the difference between 6.1 and 6.5 is going to have the ability to follow a few instructions in a forum.

Go back to your iPhone with all the other sheep.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
My MD has a, HTC, he won't know how to upgrade to 6.5. So how does he take advantage of the great new features of 6.5? Oh yeah, he can't. Despite spending $200 a month on his cell contract.

Keep hacking, man. And by mean hacking I mean downloading some file someone else created and you just leached]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
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HAHAHAHAHAHA]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
To get from XP to Vista to 7 on one computer will have cost me almost $400 come 22 October. Whereas to get from Tiger to Leopard to Snow Leopard on five computers has cost me $250. Tack on an office productivity suite and again, the Apple software is far cheaper for more licenses.

You are certainly able to build a PC for less money than a Mac, but this is beyond the average person and will not always result in comparable build quality. As for PC manufacturers such as Dell, equipping their systems to the same spec as a standard Mac is often just as expensive. The only area where your criticism really holds up is Apple's absurd RAM/hard drive upgrade prices.

ANYWAY, back to the matter at hand... it would be fantastic if Microsoft were able to release a standalone download for WM 5 and 6 so that *anyone* can upgrade to the latest version, regardless of their carrier, and without resorting to sites like those mentioned. It's not just about sipping the iPhone Kool Aid - Android and webOS phones are also following the carrier-independent upgrade path as it is far more user-friendly and allows far wider support of new features. The fragmented userbase cannot be good for Microsoft.]]>Oct 6th 2009 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
@Dale: Assuming that you bought your Mac when XP was released (that's August 2001), it's unlikely that you were able to upgrade this computer to Snow Leopard. Because my PowerBook, which I bought in 2005, isn't compatible with Snow Leopard anymore. (Want the most recent version of the OS? Buy a new computer. Oh wait. I bought a MacBook in February this year. Does it run Snow Leopard with all features, like the 64bit kernel? No. Well. I just have to buy a MacBook pro, I guess).

@cxp3: My HP iPaq 514 can't be upgraded to WM 6.5, and I'm 100% certain that it'll never be possible to upgrade it. ]]>Oct 6th 2009 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Of course I've bought new hardware in that time, but it was far easier to do so when my operating system upgrades didn't cost me anywhere near as much money.

I own both PC and Mac, both have their strengths and weaknesses, but the discussion about Mac pricing is always so completely focussed on the price of the initial hardware and not the overall cost of ownership.]]>Oct 7th 2009 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Let the lulz commence.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Too many manufacturers, too many device and architecture variations, too much money to be made by companies in selling new devices instead of helping their existing customers upgrade to a newer OS.

The original iPhone can accomodate the 3.1 OS. Granted, there are some things left out due to hardware (Compass and GPS), and some other things left out to kinda nudge the user to get the newer hardware (read: MMS, video [sorta]), but that image above is just cold turkey for many WinMo users.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
http://gadgetsonthego.net/2009/10/t-mobile-dash-joins-windows-mobile-65.html]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Microsoft should have added non-update options for Windows Mobile 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Just as confusing as your "Upgrade to Windows 7?" charts.

You really have a knack of complicating things and frustrating users - fanboy or not, there's no doubt about it.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
For example, HTC will offer an update to its Touch Pro2 (euro gsm version), but T-Mobile may shaft their users and not offer an official update to the T-Mobile branded version..]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Steps for upgrading a WinMo phone

1. sign up for a forum.
2. look for the upgrade forum.
3. look for the thread for your particular phone.
4. look for the firmware of your particular device.
5. download firmware
6. install firmware on your phone (oh yeah you're losing everything on that badboy, better make sure that activesync is working)
7. hope and pray that you didn't download that wrong firmware.

Or.

1. Plug in your phone
2. Get prompted that there is a new update.
3. Download update.
4. Install update.

I know that the average user would much rather do the first set of steps. Yeah right!!!
]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
1a. Wait for your registration email and activate it.]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
No sense letting you choose to change things around yourself or customize it anyway you'd like. Who would ever want to do such a thing?]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/Oct 6th 2009 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
http://gizmodo.com/5374876/windows-mobile-65-review-theres-no-excuse-for-this
http://www.pcworld.com/article/173186/windows_mobile_65_arrives_mostly_disappoints.html
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/10/06/windows-mobile-6-5-review-it-still-sucks/]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Any by the way, if you want the upgrade skip the middle-man and flash your own ROM! I don't see any Apple users running the next iPhone version ahead of schedule. WinMo users already have 6.5.1 to use, for free.

Also, the organizations responsible for this mess are the carriers, not MS or the OEM. ]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/microsofts-windows-mobile-6-5-update-guide-no-no-maybe/
Lack of MMS on the iphone was also the carriers' fault. But you never gave Apple a pass then, did you? ;)

Idiot.]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:10PM