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How about dropping WebOS and going with Android!

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It will be interesting to watch the share price over the next week....

The death watch has officially begun!
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What do you expect from the company that steals USB vendor ID to provide iTunes hack service
to their customers? Palm is losing money hand over fist and it shows they are desperate!
Anyone wants to guess what Palm will steal next?


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Comments like that are a perfectly good way to ruin a comments page with the age old Palm USB debate....

That said, Faking USB PID to get out of making a conduit App, thats pretty low...

*ducks* ]]>Oct 6th 2009 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/If Apple had such a ridiculous flaw no one would give them an inch, and they'd be taking shit from all sides. I see no reason to forgive Palm for basically allowing a free-for-all on apps that were never intended to be.]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
This is one case where being an early-adopter is rather ill-advised - right now it's external folks stealing from Palm, what happens if there's another :exploit" (love that term!) that allows external folks to steal from you? Probably not as easy to do, granted, but...

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One of the apps hit by this has the following homebrew download statistics:

Downloads This Week: 1,891
Total downloads: 42,924

Every single one of those people could've downloaded it for free.]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
Palm are getting more desperate by the day!

When does the official death watch start?]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
And then people wonder why the iPhone is steamrolling the Pre.]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
Ummm, you would have thought if they only need to change a "couple of lines of code" regarding iTunes, they should have plenty of time to actually get their sh*t together on the stuff that, you know, actually matters to the long term success of their brand and product and their small customer base (which they need to grow desperately if they are going to survive).

And your comment on "3 year head-start". Very lame response. So you don't want people to compare them to the iPhone or Apple, but in the same breath you like to use the fact that Apple is 3 years ahead?

Again, not that I'm hoping for them [Palm] to fail, but they're certainly doing everything possible to appear like a spider caught in the last moments of a toilet flush. Palm needs to wow potential customers despite what Apple or anyone else is doing, and not get fundamentals like this wrong. It certainly doesn't help; it frustrates their current customers, annoys their investors, and alienates potential customers.]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
You mean Palm's 3 year head-start?

Palm's Ed Colligan, 3 year ago: "Colligan laughed off the idea that any company -- including the wildly popular Apple Computer -- could easily win customers in the finicky smart-phone sector.
"We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone," he said. "PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in.'"

http://www.palminfocenter.com/comments/9110/
]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/no, I agree with you completely. I was responding to Dustin's whining about how Apple somehow had a 3 year head start on Palm :p ]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
(sorry but I couldn't resist. i was happy see a decent competitor with my beloved iphone but their whole spoiled brat feud with itunes sync ruined any respect I had for them. based on this, it probably is best for their users that they didn't try to write an XMl parser for the itunes DB)]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
The European Union has given Microsoft warnings before for similar actions, why is it okay when Apple does it?

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Anyway, to get back on topic more, the paid apps are back up.]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
You and lot of people just don't like to listen. Reason seems to fall on deaf hears because of your Apple bias. It seems as though you guys love to ignore anything that has to do with logic and reason.

For the last time, use your hears and listen to common sense.

Have you ever heard of copyright infringement? Hacking Itunes to say (iPod) whenever the Pre is connected is 100% copyright infringement. Apple did not give Palm the approval to use their name or their software in an illegal manner. Other companies connect to iTunes legally, so Palm has no excuse whatsoever. If I was Apple I would sue Palm into bankruptcy without even thinking twice about it. And I'm pretty sure Palm will get what coming to them soon enough.

Stop defending Palms stupidly pathetic actions, it makes you look stupid too
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And no, I'm not anti-Apple. I'm anti-restrictive practices like what Apple does with iTunes. Sure, other companies do connector programs that most users never install because they don't know any better. This provides a better experience. Of course, neither restricting a music store to only allow your device isn't illegal, nor is the Pre's spoofing an iPod's device ID.

The question of the matter, is whether they're immoral, and I find both to be equally so. I'm not turning a blind eye towards what Palm is doing, it's definitely questionable. I just think it's as equally questionable as what Apple is doing on the other side.]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 1:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
Once again you're not listening

Syncing is only one way to get music out of Itunes. Apple is not restricting anyone from putting music onto their device

However in order to sync, the device maker has to design a program that will play nice with Itunes sync without hacking

it's that simple

It seems as though you're for free market, but then you don't want any regulations or restrictions on free market. Without free market regulation their would be millions of fake Microsoft & Apple companies with the same name and logos selling hack job versions of their products.

Listen to reason and stop defending Palms dumb decision.]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
The argument of 'no-one installs third party software' is cobblers though. Just build the sync app, store it on the Pre as a 'driver' and install it automatically (with an option to cancel installation) when the phone connects. Job done. Or if you want to give consumers a little more credit just put a disc in the top of the box with a big 'if you use iTunes INSTALL THIS SOFTWARE TO SYNC' label on it.

As for Apple should allow anyone to use their sync app - did Palm allow windows mobile devices to sync out-of-the-box with their desktop app? Does Microsoft let Palm sync via Active Sync? The problem is, as soon as Apple allows it they're also responsible in the eyes of the customer for supporting the device. If they didn't say anything, let it go through several versions of iTunes then did something that broke it entirely by accidents it's APPLE that'd be expected to fix it. How on earth is that fair?

Basically, the tools are there for Palm to build or buy their own solution for syncing with your iTunes library and to ensure that anyone that needs that software knows to install it. As it is now Palm's customers are the ones that loose out because they keep finding they've got broken media syncing.]]>Oct 6th 2009 5:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/sent From my iPhone. Oops. ]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
douche

sent from my palm pre]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/
well, Again we are talking about APPLE.. So! yea, Thats something that is common and natural.. I would be surprised if its not up by morning again...]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 1:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/palm-pulls-paid-apps-due-to-major-bug-allowing-free-app-download/Oct 6th 2009 1:14AM