http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/ Engadget Comments for Robbie Bach sits down for a roundtable discussion, Engadget is there http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
My guess is that getting everything to play nice is a huge technical undertaking. Sure it would be great if everything was connected. However, those that have done system integrations know that this is extremely challenging work that yes, often takes years to complete.

This isn't to excuse Microsoft for neglecting the Mobile space for so long. They clearly dropped the ball. However, I am empathetic to their situation and appreciate that what everyone is asking for is not being done by their competition and is very, very unique.]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj9LYWCl6Sw

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Which one will be under $400 and do what I want?]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
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What was the question? The answer just seems like a bunch of random statements that I can't infer the question from, and you guys apparently don't care to post them. What's the point of posting these random soundbytes instead of the actual interview?]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
---- Yeah, like the AWESOME ability to convert Windows Media Center HDTV recordings to the Zune HD. [ha, ha]
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This is actually a question.]]>Oct 6th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
Everyone knows where they're headed. To the toilet.]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
"We ask Robbie about Pink and if a Microsoft phone is in the company's future: "I don't see that." Robbie was pretty vehement that making a piece of hardware for mobile space isn't really in the company's plans. "Apple demonstrated that the end to end experience worked, so we did that with the Zune." He says he doesn't think it makes sense for the scale of the mobile market."

So, you believe Apple when it comes to the success of end-to-end services, but you somehow manage to disbelieve the stunning success of the iPhone with your next breath? Look, it's obvious that a Zune phone is something the market wants. It's something that could provide Microsoft with a huge opportunity to integrate its online offerings into a mobile device. The very idea that the "scale" of the market is what prevents this is completely incoherent reasoning - the mobile market is huge, and that makes it way easier to get your foot in the door.

Please tell me there was some sort of epic misquote here. *sigh*]]>Oct 6th 2009 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/24/microsoft-ballmer-interview-exclusive-techcrunch-bing-mobile-azur/

The idea is that in smaller markets based on sales (like video game consoles, MP3 players) can have a product be controlled from end to end by a single player for the best success. But in larger markets (like PCs and phones) you can be a player like Apple, but your only going to have a niche market; so Microsoft provides Windows and gets a large market share to let the OEMs worry about the rest. To quote Ballmer: "But when you get these categories that are 300 million, 500 million, a billion, a billion-five a year, the truth of the matter is you’re gonna want multiple points of manufacture, with a lot of innovation around it whether its supply chain, for geographic diversity, and our basic play with our software is to try and be super high volume"]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLRjKCGHek]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
But MS created this horizontal ecosystem way back when and now they want it vertical like Apple.]]>Oct 16th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
1) Isn't it?

2) Is that a problem?]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
Right, broke through - hopefully they broke through the head of the lead that approved the cut-off "e" at the end of "Marketplace" on the home screen.]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
They really don't get it. Wow.]]>Oct 6th 2009 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/how much longer r u gonna allow iPhone to own n dominate n school u?
2)who manufacturers better laptops apple or ms?
3)do you feel zune will make a dent in iPod sales? ]]>Oct 6th 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/2. Now, no. Someday, probably not. However, they are pushing Zune as software and service which will overtake iTunes one day.]]>Oct 6th 2009 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
Microsoft doesn't combine any of its 'experiences' well? If you want a premium music experience you go to Zune, a game unit you go to Xbox. The only good experience you get from winmo is exchange support which is fairly universal. Perhaps MS should pump out a respectable WM7 before they crown themselves champs of the mobile experience.]]>Oct 6th 2009 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
lol are you kidding me? I think you meant to say the premium music experience is in iPod/iTunes. I love the unparalleled user experience and service they deliver. The Zune is doing so bad sales pretty much collapsed and MS had to retire all the previous players out of the market.]]>Oct 6th 2009 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/
As an owner of an iPhone 3G and a Zune 30 I have to disagree. The Zune software nails it in the user interface, presentation, ease of use department. Never cared for the bloated mess that is iTunes and I wouldn't even use it if it weren't for my iPhone. I think people should try the Zune software out. I suspect some say it's bad and have never used it.]]>Oct 6th 2009 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/robbie-bach-sits-down-for-a-roundtable-discussion-engadget-is-t/Oct 6th 2009 9:21PM