http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/ Engadget Comments for AT&T's HTC Tilt 2 handled: it's very much a Touch Pro2 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Anyway , when , last spring, the TP2 became available in my little country , I tried to use it for a few days to decide if it was worth to get it instead of my 1 year old TouchHD and I decided that the TouchHD was still far better: better camera, better videocam, better looks and once one downloads one of the excellent third party virtual keyboards available , the physical k-board is absolutely superfluos.
In 20 days though the mighty HD2 will be released here; I already preordered and as soon as I will get it I will sell my beloved TouchHD; not my HTC Hero though : That one I'm gonna keep anyway.]]>Oct 8th 2009 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/
Also, I knew it wouldn't take long to get a comment about the keyboard :-). Glad my provider is sprint. Only real downside for me is that I can't use internet at the same time. ]]>Oct 8th 2009 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/
Also, yes the 3.5mm jack is an inconvenience but not a deal breaker. Plug your headphones into the dongle, roll them up, and stick them in your pocket together. They even make smaller dongles that are just a wire with a plug on each end for a few buck. I dont see the huge earth shattering loss. An inconvenience at best.]]>Oct 8th 2009 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/
I beg 2 differ. 4 instance, look at this sentence. 0 symbols.

Odds are you will probably use numbers more. Do you not send addresses or phone numbers to other people in text or emails? Even on a regular computer keyboard, those symbols are shifted because you use them LESS than numbers.

I have both the old Tilt (no numbers) and the Touch Pro (Sprint version with dedicated number row) and I find typing with the Touch Pro way more useful. Most qwerty phones don't have the dedicated number row so most people won't see the benefit, but once you have a phone that does have it (many LG and Verizon phones), your opinion will change.

]]>Oct 8th 2009 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/I agree with klmsu.. using the fuze ive actually started liking the idea of having the ? and the / and other symbols more than actually using numbers...]]>Oct 8th 2009 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/
count how many "." and "," "?" "(" and ")" are in your post compared to numbers- all in the symbol row. I count 19 symbols versus 3 forced numbers. My point stands.

People dont type like that 2 spell 4 business. This is a business device, period.]]>Oct 8th 2009 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Look at other versions, the number keys and symbol keys are matched accordingly with US type and we are more comfortable with that way,]]>Oct 8th 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/
1. Periods and commas are not in the symbol row. Both the ded and non-ded versions have those as their own keys.
2. In text messages, one rarely uses most of those symbols save the '?'. How many passwords do you have that have those symbols instead of numbers?
3. Purely a business phone? Really? Well in that case, I hope your business doesn't involve financial information where your emails and communication would involve... gasp... numbers!
4. As to the speed factor with how the numbers are placed, as a systems programmer, I find using the top row numbers quicker than 10-key. As an accountant, that would be different... but based on a US keyboard... the dedicated number row is something people are more used to... even the parentheses are shifted symbols.
5. Do any of you actively use two phones with the different layouts to give us real world usage results?

it may not be a deal breaker for some, heck... Blackberries and Palms don't have dedicated number rows... but I find it a huge convenience to have them. But I'll only use 2 of those symbols as frequently as I could use all 10 numbers.]]>Oct 9th 2009 3:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/when you type on this device, you're already using two hands, so you holding that fn button with your right thumb isn't something that takes a lot of effort; you're not doing more work

in fact, when you need to put in multiple numbers one after another, you'd be doing LESS work
in that case, this layout will be more accurate and be always, ALWAYS! faster since your thumbs don't have to move as much, not to mention you only need your right thumb, alternating between the two]]>Oct 8th 2009 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 4:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 8th 2009 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524641
Unless perhaps it's a waste of your time because you were planted here by HTC to discredit any and all negative impressions... I'm just saying.. ]]>Oct 8th 2009 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/
Anybody know if tethering (internet sharing) is enabled by default like it was on the Fuze? Does it have visual voicemail like the BB and the iPhone? I hope there is a brief review coming soon!

Thanks for the update engadget!]]>Oct 9th 2009 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 2:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 2:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/
This makes the Tilt2 a ripoff. It came too early to the WM6.5 party and got screwed.]]>Oct 9th 2009 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/Oct 9th 2009 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/]]>Oct 9th 2009 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/As an owner of the Verizon TP2 I must say I use the number line a good amount. That was one of the reasons why I upgraded from the Glyde. Why would anyone ever think displacing the numbers to the middle and putting a bunch of symbols in their place is a good idea?
When would you use _ or ! over a number, especially on this device? (as a user of it, I can tell you the symbols are the least-useful of the keys)
Not to mention for the Calendar it's much more efficient to have numbers readily available instead of symbols for entering dates and times.
Shame it doesn't even come with a 3.5mm jack to make up for the unneeded rearrangement. The 3.5mm allows the TP2 to successfully replace my aging iPod Nano and use the same headphones. Excellent device, with a proper keyboard that is.
]]>Oct 9th 2009 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/atandt-tilt-2-handled-its-very-much-a-touch-pro2/This buyer has decided to pass and wait for the Leo.
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