http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/ Engadget Comments for NVIDIA Ion 2 still on track for this year http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Get away with selling single Atom chips for a much higher price than a combination of Intel Atom + Intel IGP.

Intel hasn't outlifed his competitors because of better products but because of more money and illegal or let's say 'not fair' behaviour which gets tolerated because Intel is a too huge company.

So let's hope, for customers sake, that AMD gets back, nVidia destroys larrabee and VIA together with Ion 2 the Atom crap.

I also use Intel products, because, at the moment, the Core 2 is better than an AMD equivalent, but I hope that better competition comes back soon.]]>Oct 12th 2009 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
I'm not saying the Core architecture isn't better than Phenom, it clearly is, but AMD are still competitive.

The $99 Athlon II X4 620 for example, nothing in the price range beats it. AMD also have great motherboards, the combination of Athlon II and 785G would be ideal for most people and costs a whole lot less than an Intel equivelant :)]]>Oct 12th 2009 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
Still, though, Intel's Core i7 blows everything away. In my opinion these CPU's are the best value for performance, I mean, the lowest-end Core i7 is even faster than the highest-end Core 2..]]>Oct 12th 2009 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
+1 for the Hackers reference!]]>Oct 12th 2009 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Anyone know what ION2 is based off of?]]>Oct 12th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
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What will be interesting to me is, when the dust settles, how an Intel Pineview setup compares to a Nano+Ion setup in terms of dollar cost and wattage per performance. It'd be interesting to throw an ULV+4500MHD into the mix too. A 12-inch Nano+Ion convertible (tablet) laptop for $600-$700 could be a really interesting value proposition.]]>Oct 12th 2009 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
The 9400M (Ion before the clever rebranding) in my Macbook Pro failed, the 9600GT runs at least 75c idle, the 8400 GS in my sisters Compaq failed a few days ago, the drivers for my parents 7600LE have still not been fixed etc.

They're dishonest, not in the sense of stretching the truth for marketing, but flat out lies, look at the 8400/8600 mess with previous gen Macbook Pro's and many other OEMs.

Fuck Nvidia.]]>Oct 12th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
And even if there IS some kind of larger issue with the 9400M chipset, it doesn't logically follow that the new 40nm Ion 2 -- which is manufactured with a different process and is obviously not just a smaller version of the original Ion -- would have the same (hypothetical) problems, anyway.]]>Oct 12th 2009 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
Try "bumpgate"

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/08/21/nvidia-finally-understands-bumpgate/]]>Oct 12th 2009 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
Huh.

Alright, well, I stand corrected. Looks like Nvidia booped that up good. I hope they manage to fix that for the new Ion 2 lol. My original comment does still stand, of course; it doesn't necessarily follow that future chips will have the same problem as past chips; in fact, Nvidia better make sure they learn from their mistakes, and fast.

This is a fascinating series of articles; thanks for the link.]]>Oct 12th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
If you read through the inquirer information, which I have, it appears the 9400GM chip is fine (which is essentially the ION one). It is the 9600 chip in the 15" macbook pro which has the potential to be defective. So ION should be ok.]]>Oct 15th 2009 1:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Nov 5th 2009 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
And wont Ion 2 compete with this TEGRA?]]>Oct 12th 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
So essentially, ION lets you run Windows (and also gives you a more robust and common graphics element), Tegra doesn't. ]]>Nov 22nd 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
I think what you're looking for is LGA775 compatible, not all Pentium 4s were LGA775.]]>Oct 12th 2009 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
I think we would run into battery problems...


it's worth a try....]]>Oct 12th 2009 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
I lucked out with my Gigabyte m912-m netbook (Atom N270 on Intel 945/950 chipset). Gigabyte installed the 2nd second mini-pci connector on the main board even though it ships empty. (1st mini-pci is occupied by the wireless adapter.) I got the card from ebay, installed the BCM70012 drivers and arcsoft theater from HP's support website, and boom, my M912 now has flawless playback of 1080p bluray rips, 720p tv-show torrents, and 720p recordings from my hauppauge 1212 HD-DVR. Now waiting for adobe to hurry up with the broadcom enabled flash support (they announced via press release that they are working on it for first quarter 2010.) I still need that for playback of HD flash-based web streams.

I've got bookmarked instructions for enabling the card under MPC-HomeCinema but haven't tried them yet.
Back when I was researching this, I saw where an Aspire One user was able to use it by sticking it in his one's wirelass lan card slot. And there was some other netbook users that found the empty traces for the second mini-pci and where going to solder on an connector to use it (beyond my ability.. I hate SMT soldering.)
Also, going this route doesn't really affect battery life all that much. My M912 idled at 13 watts without the card, 14 watts with. During bluray iso playback, CPU load (via sysinternal's process explorer) was 52% with 22 watts of power draw (measured via kill-a-watt p4400 by running on ac with battery removed.)

Just a thought vs waiting for Nvidia to make a netbook chip that doesn't require 1.21 gigawatts and a magnetic plasma containment field.
]]>Oct 12th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/This way there are 3 (pretty) major CPU+GPU competitors :D]]>Oct 15th 2009 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/
-The internet.]]>Oct 13th 2009 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/12/nvidia-ion-2-still-on-track-for-this-year/Oct 12th 2009 6:23PM