http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/My little D200 does up to 1600 not counting the Hi modes. True, this is only to 12,800 (only!) without going into hi...but...wow.
And I still have to wonder why it is spelled "hi" and not "high."


This really all boils down to...I want! NOW!]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
thanks for sharing your opinion. If it's such a horrible camera as you say, how did Nikon sell so many? (that's a rhetorical question)]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
Your angle is the same lame angle of every "fanboi" of cars, consoles, cola, computer makes, colonic irrigation...

Personally I think the 720p is a bit average for such an expensive body.]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/I've been shooting with the D200 for the past 2 years. You show me yours and I will show you mine.
And my Dad can beat your Dad.
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you are obviously not a photographer.]]>Oct 14th 2009 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
what kind of math is this? ]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 18th 2009 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
Are you going to say to your client..."Sorry, my $5200 camera can't print that large?"]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/73/hasselblad_h3d_camera_zoom.jpg

Need bigger? go with view cameras.
http://media.smithsonianmag.com/images/388*387/indelible_mainmay05.jpg]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
but seriously, each camera is designed for specific tasks. Just like a Corvette isn't designed for the family of 5. The D3 and D3S are designed for low-light situations and sports photography. On the otherhand, the D3X has the 21MP sensor so it is designed around shooting in the studio and so forth where plenty of light is available and big prints are needed.]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
When shooting a wedding professionally, there's two kinds of situations: the formals and the other stuff. For the other stuff, yeah this looks like it would do the job extremely nicely. However, for the formals which have controlled lighting, it makes *much* more sense to take advantage of medium format film, i.e. Portra 160NC, because the prints will be much nicer.]]>Oct 14th 2009 1:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
Let me put things in perspective for you, if you have a jpeg (at the oh-so inferior 72 dpi) and its native resolution was an equivalent to 16x20 inches. You can resize that 30% larger (with bicubic and other built in algorithms in most graphics programs) before real people will notice. So now your print is native 20.8x26 without any tricks.

Now imagine if your source image was the much more desirable 300 dpi with a now native resolution of 20.8x26 , you COULD drop the resolution down to 72 and have an image more than twice as large, simply because the inches are being counted differently by your computer and by printers. Now your image is 50x62 inches. What applications would you use that for? Would you stand up close to it looking for image artifacts, I mean it is a jpeg after all... And regardless, real people won't notice.

Now lets say you were doing things right from the beginning, you were shooting RAW with your 12 megapixel DSLR (instead of your 12 or 14 megapixel point and shoot) and you had the opportunity to save the image in a format that didn't produce compression artifacts as jpeg does. Now you manage to take your 12 megapixel image to those same 50x62 dimensions, while viewing it from at least 4 or 6 feet away, and you REALLY think, in the back of your mind that Nikon (or anyone else for that matter) should have pushed more megapixels in there?

That is without doing any tricks in post, like an unsharp mask, or noise ninja, or anything.

Just trying to provide some insight, 12 is all you need and they should stop including it in the specs. It is kind of like how Pentium 2 processors used to come with "MMX" and having the "MMX" version was a premium. All processors come with MMX but they don't keep telling you about it with fancy stickers.]]>Oct 15th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
BTW, it's still full-frame, right?

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Call it a hunch, but this may be because Nikon adds Vibration Reduction (Image stabilization) to its lenses rather than bodies.

/sarcasm

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I don't see why this would matter anyway. Any semi-decent video would be shot on a tripod (With pre-determined focus distances; which is the reason why the lack of continuous AF doesn't bother pros as much as it does the internet). Use your cellphone or P&S if you want to be cocooned in automatic settings.

Still don't care about video on a DSLR anyway. Give me a decently priced, slow burst D700X instead. Sony got the equation right with the Alpha 850.]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
Say it with me: Nikon put VR in SOME of their lenses. Some.]]>Oct 14th 2009 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 15th 2009 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
When Canon makes it's announcement for the 1dMkIV later this month we will really see where they are headed. At this point, all the rumors are looking like the 1dMkIV will have much better video specs than the 7d and 5d Mk2 combined, meanwhile Nikon is not competing in this high end video market. I love Nikon, but they are just not competing. Video and Photos together in one body is the future whether you like it or not. It will become ubiquitous much the same way digital cameras have become. People said film would never die... well it hasn't, but it really is a niche now. ]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/There are some kinks to work out but I like having a still camera and a video camera in one.]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
I'm really happy that Canon is making such great headway here. But I fear that come next round without any competition from Nikon, Canon will begin to slack.]]>Oct 14th 2009 1:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 1:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
The 5DMkII and similar cameras for video work cater to the indy/academic segments and are thus firmly niche products. If Nikon can spend it's resources making a better camera that serves to a larger segment - artists, wedding photographers, sports photographers, hobbyists, photojournalists - ANY kind of photographer, then they've catered to a larger market than Canon has and that is a good business strategy.

If Canon comes out with a 1DsMkIV that has even 2k capture, it's not going to matter when/if the body can only support ISO 1600 cleanly because Canon decided to cram 20 MP into the sensor - no *photographer* would buy it if they had an easy choice between the 1DsMkIV and the D3/S.

This isn't to say that Canon shouldn't make such a camera - there's enough room in Canon's lineup to support a video-focused professional camera as well as a more traditionally focused one. But don't lambast Nikon for not working to put in a feature that a good many of us still consider to be a worthless consumer gimmick.]]>Oct 14th 2009 2:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
And no... DP's are switching to these cameras. Numerous worldwide commercials, news agencies, and TV are all using them. And yes like I said, even film. Hell, SNL is using them. Did you watch PBS to and see the new doc on Afghanistan that aired? Oh yeah.. that was a DSLR. Not to mention all the shows in production. EVERYTHING is budget these days, and If a DP can get the same quality with a rig costing 10k compared to 150k, where do you think they will go.

Consumer... yeah, that is it. Keep telling yourself that as you are shooting with 1600 ISO Fujichrome, oh yeah.. your not shooting with that anymore because something better came along. Sorry to tell you this, but your beloved "picture" only dslr will be no more. Just remember how you felt about digital cameras not so long ago.

I never "lambasted" Nikon, I just said they either don't have the technology or are obviously, just not trying to ply in this field. A field that will become very profitable. Plus, the fact that they do include video, but a subpar quality would let one think it could be a technology issue. Canon is bringing in an entirely new group of people into the pro DSLR market. People that wouldn't have purchased a camera otherwise. ]]>Oct 14th 2009 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 2:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
Why all of the nastiness from the Cannon crowd?

It's a product not a religion. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!]]>Oct 14th 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 12:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
This is why no one should ever take gear buying advice from commenters and forum users.]]>Oct 14th 2009 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/
Looks like a stunner.]]>Oct 20th 2009 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/nikon-d3s-is-officially-official-bringing-its-iso-extremes-in-l/Oct 14th 2009 1:13AM