http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/ Engadget Comments for Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard on a MacBook Pro: big cat's faster, 7 is better for games http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
In other news, fish fare well in the water, not so well on land.]]>Oct 16th 2009 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
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... oh and what a coincidence the article comes JUST before windows is released O_=
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It certainly attracted you, Chapel.]]>Oct 16th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
What's next, Office '08 runs faster on Windows 7 than Snow Leopard? Tsk]]>Oct 16th 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
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Whats extra pathetic here is that Windows7 isn't built with Microsoft's own Development tools like .NET (and I shudder to think if it were), otherwise the numbers for Windows7 would be far, far, worse.

Windows7 is built using the lowest common denominator compiler for maximum compatibility across a wide array of cheap hardware. It is 'good enough' code (as in you will pay for it -regardless). User's don't know or realize that the code being executed doesn't take advantage of the Intel Instruction set to the fullest.

Yes, having better then Mac hardware is a given and way cheaper in the PC world. But it doesn't bode well when those drivers just 'sorta work' and the OS 'kinda uses it'.

Remember when Intel touted MMX stickers on WinTel boxes? That was touted for "some day in the future" third party apps will use this feature 'cause Microsoft's native Window Manager certainly doesn't. Heck, you had to go out of your way to turn on Pentium Pro instruction sets when you compiled software for using MSDN tools.

But good enough is plenty fine for the masses and Microsoft's balance sheet. Anything more might be mistaken for innovative.


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That is blasphemy MS would never do such things (sarcasm indeed)]]>Oct 16th 2009 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
Wow, and I thought it was only the Apple Fanboys who could be douche bags.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, Microsoft Fanboys.

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What wonders me about Windonesians is why they still will not admit it even if year after year they are shown the superiority of OSX over Windows.]]>Oct 16th 2009 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
If you say OS X runs faster than Windows 7 on a Mac, they say: "Well, hey, it's Mac hardware so what do you expect?"

Huh? They want it both ways, but here again, they miss the big point. People like Macs because OS X is optimized to run on the hardware. Using a certain selection of hardware makes it easier for Apple to come out with a new version of OS X every two years, because they know exactly what they're working with.

Some people like that kind of integration, which is why Apple did so well over the recession. People aren't buying Macs because they're "trendy," they're buying them because they work better.



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Its very apparent that you are only interested in your stupid flame war and not the facts. A better test would have been a blizzard game since their OS X games are natively written for the operating system, unfortunately blizzard hasnt released a new game that would actually be useful for this in a very long time. I guess you could use warcraft 3 since its most likely more resource hungry than WOW.

And really Tsing Wow? REARRY?]]>Oct 16th 2009 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
Apple is meant for getting work done, so it HAS to 'just work'. As I've pointed out prior, popular game dev kits (for Windows, Nintendo Wii, etc) were only available on Mac hardware, like Unity3D.com. Its still the most amazing 3d development environment. ]]>Oct 16th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
Apple can fuck up in the driver issue and they only have to do a few drivers each year. So avoid old stuff. Microsoft has to make all their partners work on drivers since they can't unify them all. old stuff can run here, but can slow down boot time pretty fast.

The point is, is you want a new fast machine always get an Apple and try to stay inside their software as much as possible and many thrid parties do some shitty work, like Adobe going 64 on windows and 32 on Apple. Not to mention most +5 year old Apple stuff will have compatibility problems with new stuff

If you want most stuff to work, no matter how old they are, get Windows and sacrifice a little speed. If you don't wanna sacrifice any speed on Windows, don't install anything that isn't super-optimized for windows 7.

I run both and could not live without one of them. Sticking to only one OS is ok, put flaming the one you don't own is pointless. Even flaming Linux is so passé now...]]>Oct 16th 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
You do realize that's because the Xbox 360's CPU is based on an IBM PowerPC chip, right?]]>Oct 16th 2009 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
making up crap again.]]>Oct 16th 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/



Windows 7 aka Vista Pro has failed miserably again!




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all it shows is that apples optimisation of their software for windows 7 isn't as good as the original that was created and intended for OSX. Reviewing and comparing is more than just run a few programs because programs can be biased as well. Honestly I expected better from Cnet.]]>Oct 16th 2009 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/their excuse for bias and crap reporting.... it's just a BLOG "]]>Oct 16th 2009 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
I saw what you typed about my other post. I do not make up crap. I posted only 3 links about how many flaws are found in the apple platform. If you are gonna call me a lier the least you can do is back up your statement. Don't just call my posting disgusting and then run away like a Nancy. If you are gonna post crap back it up or shut the hell up and that goes for all that crap you said about porting, wine, and all the other bull crap you made up. Post a link where people can read and learn. All you have to do is click and read and accept the reality. The reality is that apple is in a very crappy position right now to be pointing fingers. I guess I would feel like crap too if I had spent thousands or dollars and still have a bunch of flaws with my system.

All I know if you those guys that bought a powerPC would've bought an XP system instead they would be a lot happier right now. They would be getting a much better OS than what they're stuck with now. A good company doesn't only serve they new customers but also the old ones. This is gonna happen again when 128bit becomes a standard. This is why OSX is never gonna outsell windows. But that's apple. Lets outmode everything so that everybody has to buy all of our crap all over again. Or you gonna come out with an excuse for that too? Apple doesn't like or support there older customers. Innovation should not come at the expense of old customers. This is a very lazy approach because its a lot easier to come out with a new product than to come out with a solution that would make everybody happy right. People now days don't have the money to spend in a computer that is gonna be outdated in a few. They want be able to upgraded it. They don't want just one brand, they want a bunch of options. But again, when was the last time you heard of an apple user being to upgrade a CPU or a motherboard. This is the sad reality of apple, the just want money and they're getting lazy about support and the quality of their products. They used crappy RAID instead of SAN for the time capsules. that's 500 buck product that apple will not even service. I know people talked crap about the xbox 360 burning but at least MS had the balls to accept the mistake, pay for shipping, fixing, a free 30 day live gold gift card, and extending the warranty of a product that cost only half of those time capsules.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/are-some-apple-time-capsules-locking-themselves-up-for-good/ http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/11/major-bug-in-snow-leopard-deletes-all-user-data
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/07/10/30/leopard-allegedly-facing-java-problems]]>Oct 16th 2009 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/You really don't know crap about programming so please stop embarrassing yourself. One of the reason's Microsoft has remained king for so long is there development tools are really top notch. There are plenty of things that Microsoft and Windows aren't the best at, but their development platform is definitely not one of them.
]]>Oct 17th 2009 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/What are you smoking? If thats true, why doesn't M$ build Windows with the same tools they publish? I've been programming Windows for 13 years, and everyone in the industry knows that their SDKs stomp on standards left and right. Even high level specifications like IE is only CSS2 compliant, ala 1998. HTML5? good luck!

If you knew anything... about high level or low level programming you'd know what a nightmare and pain in the ass Microsoft has made of development. Whether its being sued for violating the Sun's JVM licenses and making the ill compatible and later complete failure 'J#' (just to stall protected code till .NET matures -and we're still waiting) or F'ing up MS-SQL Server by stealing, YES downright STEALING Sybase right from under them and breaking it, or how about their whole multimillion dollar loss and lawsuit with BURST Media, or ... or...

The list goes on and on. Yeah, 'TOP NOTCH PAIN IN THE ASS'. Its called Registry Hell and taking a perfectly good model like COM, rebranding it ActiveX COM and f*cking it up royally.

Like I said, you can't compare a pseudo compiler language like .NET to Cocoa and Objective C (or C for that matter). You are delusional. Game engines for Microsoft are built in OLD C or old C++. And that is why you will never see Windows7 built with Microsoft's own 'cutting edge' Development Tools. Period. ]]>Oct 17th 2009 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 17th 2009 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
detailed sources: http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/windows-7-official-suite-why-should-you-get-it/

You can see there a young-looking bill gates with his "broken promises" lol]]>Oct 25th 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
One thing these tests do prove to me at least, is that Macs are the best computers to run Windows 7 on. Those shut-down and start-up times are better than anything I've seen on a PC so far.

That in a lot of ways, that is sad on Microsoft's part.

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Or let me guess, those folks don't really exist, right?]]>Oct 16th 2009 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/-/]]>Oct 16th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
They want Microsoft to be the best at everything so bad. Sorry, kids, that's not how the universe works.

For every successful product like the iPhone, there's something like AppleTV. Or Windows XP and the Zune. Or the Google search engine and the G1. No one company can be successful at everything.

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I would like to point out that some of the tests on both systems are done with Quicktime and iTunes, which are really testing how well Apple ported the applications to Windows than the actual speed (and the Windows ports are definitely worse in terms of performance).]]>Oct 16th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/
Do some tests with some real software. Encode some MP3s with LAME on either OS and see how it fares.]]>Oct 16th 2009 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/windows-7-versus-snow-leopard-on-a-macbook-pro-big-cats-faster/Oct 16th 2009 3:10PM