http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/I'm spending $2k on that Envy 15" within the next couple of weeks, mind you.]]>Oct 18th 2009 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
Nooo, the Envy 13 is more expensive. The Envy 15 is an absolute steal compared to a comparable MacBook Pro.

i7 720QM compares to a C2D T9900 @ 3.06 Ghz
Mobility Radeon 4830 is better than the GeForce 9600M GT
Upgrade both to 8GB of RAM, $100 for the HP, $1000 for the Apple (Yay 4 dimms!) since the HP starts with 6, which the Apple can't.

Your MacBook Pro comes to a total of over $3,000, will that be cash or credit?
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Having recently aquired the latest model UNIBODY MacBook Pro (note emphasis on unibody), the difference is significant. Not only is typing way nicer because the keyboard is rigid, but the whole machine feels solid and doesn't bend slightly when being lifted.

Like the original titanium PowerBook that many are still using after 7 years or so (ours included), spending a bit extra is a worthwhile investment. After all, being without a machine while it is under repair is costly - you have to spend time recovering backup files to a backup laptop or even survive without one for several weeks, while a robust machine may give you several extra reliable years over a lesser quality model. I'm predicting that many MacBook Pro unibody machines will still be working without failure at least 5 years from now, despite being thrust into backpacks almost daily.

Probably the same with these new HP models - that from the screenshot - look just like the new MacBook Pros!

Who would have thought it?]]>Oct 18th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 19th 2009 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26053332@N04/4025240035/sizes/o/]]>Oct 19th 2009 8:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
glitches everywhere]]>Oct 18th 2009 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/This can mean different things, like, you know, use those other 250Gb for confidential stuff D:]]>Oct 18th 2009 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
This product is almost a breakthrough for HP considering their usual plastic with flower pattern laptops. I can't believe they f***ed up the website this bad.]]>Oct 18th 2009 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Don't check under cashback stores, which only gives 5%.

You need to enter the search term HP on bing.com and the sponsored link will say 25% cashback on HP.

I wasn't planning on purchasing the 15'' envy but since its 25% off ima go ahead and jump on it.]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 19th 2009 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 20th 2009 3:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
The Envy's trackpad doesn't work. It has shoddy build quality. Costs more than a MBP.

The 15 is grossly overpriced, has poor buil;d quality.

HP is locked in a battle with thousands of people who have bought their i7 desktop machines and have suffered through crash after crash. HP has no explanation and has done nothing to satisfy the complaints.

HP consumer PC support is one of the worst in the industry.]]>Oct 18th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
Anyway, no, the MacBook Air is in the ultra-portable category. These two HPs don't fit in that category; they look more like corporate laptops. I'm still liking the MacBook Pros though, they have better quality, they're hundreds of dollars cheaper and have pretty good customer support.]]>Oct 18th 2009 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
Plus the Mobility Radeon 4830 kills the GeForce 9600M GT.]]>Oct 18th 2009 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://hdtv.biz-news.com/news/en_US/2009/10/18/0001/best-buy-fires-up-hdtv-scam-of-its-own-uses-composite-on-uncalibrated-set

which is a mirror of the Engadget article that used to be here...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/best-buy-fires-up-hdtv-scam-of-its-own-uses-composite-on-uncal/]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
Sorry. I don't make the rules.]]>Oct 18th 2009 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
personally i like hp, and im planning to buy a nice hp laptop for college, but yeah, the envy did a pretty good job at copying the MBP. get over it. apparently apple fanboys didnt realize AT ALL that their 'revolutionary keyboards' were just another rip in this stupid world.]]>Oct 18th 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
Those 3 links I just posted go for you too. And yeah, Apple uses high quality parts.]]>Oct 18th 2009 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
those links do not show that apple use support parts. those are nothing more than consumer reviews which are pretty much rating the os (because there rating user experience and the OS is what people interact with most). apple DOES you the same parts as every other OEM. there was once a time when apple did all there own stuff but not anymore they buy parts from asia and put it all together here. the only difference between macs and window's pc's are the OS nothing more. ]]>Oct 18th 2009 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/
Apple does engineer its own motherboards and certain chipsets. Though Apple never built their own CPUs, they used Motorola's, then IBM's and now Intel's. Same goes for HDDs, RAM, disc drives and screens. Here is a history lesson so you can learn about Apple's long history in chip design:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/04/28/how-apples-pa-semi-acquisition-fits-into-its-chip-history/

As for the rest of non-Apple designed chips:
The difference is how Apple picks components and which ones they choose out of the pool from where all the other manufacturers are also picking theirs. In that respect Apple has tighter quality controls because Apple needs to engineer the parts to tightly integrate them with OS X. The Mac experience is far more than just the software or the hardware by themselves and that's why you see such high customer satisfaction ratings.]]>Oct 18th 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/hp-envy-dv8-quad-mini-311-and-numerous-other-windows-7-machin/Oct 18th 2009 2:27PM