http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/ Engadget Comments for T-Mobile's Project Dark includes option for buying phones in monthly installments? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Where's that leak of HD2 + that $50/m for all-you-can-eat? D:]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/That would be awesome! I might get one then!]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Here's what I mean.

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af230/RickyROFL/Engadget_1255901302855.jpg

IE looks normal.

Could anyone help?]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/And yes, I had that problem too, so I refreshed the page using the refresh button and it went away.]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/T-Mobile is already doing all you can eat for $52 (before tax and fees)

Unlimited Loyalty (voice call) is $50 / first line, $40 second line
T-zones unlimited Internet is $5.99 per line
Family Plan Unlimited messages is $19.99 / whole account, that's $10 per line

So it's $61/ line if you have 2 lines.

If you can get 5 people on the same account,
Five Unlimited Loyalty (voice call) is $210 total, that's $42 per line
T-zones unlimited Internet is $5.99 per line
Family Plan Unlimited messages is $19.99 / whole account, that's $4 per line

So $42 + $5.99 + $4 = $52, you get unlimited voice, internet, and messages.
]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/That's nice, but I prefer going for a Individual Plan. And you're counting the loyalty plan (currently on Sprint), so that wouldn't work for me for at least the next two years.

But just for the hell of it, comparing the same thing on Sprint's Everything Data w/ Any Mobile, Anytime family plan with 5 people on the line:
$129.99 - Everything Data w/ AnyMobile, Anytime + $59.97 ($19.99 per line) = $189.96/month for 5 lines.
That would make $38 per line, for basically unlimited everything, no need to hold for 2yrs for it either.
So Sprint still wins imo.
]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
That $129 Sprint plan is great if the users call Mobile phones most of the time
Otherwise the 5 lines would be sharing just 1500 anytime minutes for calling landline numbers, (300 minutes / line)]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/You're right, but I believe those 300 minutes/line for landlines is enough. At least I certainly don't know many people around me who is always is calling to landlines, specially when families nowadays are cutting off their landline phones for individual cellphones for each family member.]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/They do have a chat I guess, but I'm just browsing.
Although I get a better store when I enter in another ZIP code. Try 49509 to see what I'm talking about. I think it has something to do with MetroPCS?
Still Sprint's fault for presenting customers with a POS website.]]>Oct 18th 2009 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
not just Germany and Japan.]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
Is it just me or does the whole mobile telecom biz in the US suck compared with the rest of the world?]]>Oct 18th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
i think the biggest problem with the cell carrier industry here is the fact that the towers are not owned/operated by the government as they are in other countries - so the smaller cell companies that cant afford to build/buy many of their own towers have crappy coverage and don't compete well. or, they have to buy tower/network usage from the big guys - which is very expensive.

most of my family lives in Canada, and they say it's the same raw deal for telecommunications there.

i really hope this is a step toward the end of forced contractual ties to carriers.]]>Oct 19th 2009 5:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
They may not have the best coverage, but $40 for voice, $50 for voice/text, $60 for voice/text/data, I think are pretty good deals.

Secondly, T-Mobile will be introducing a big contender, King N900 of Finland. ***trumpet***

iPhone vs Droid vs N900 vs Hero

Tickets anyone?]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/They need to roll out that coverage, at least get it to Sprint's level, and if they can work it out with AT&T to roam on their network, that'd help. I get free roaming with Sprint on Verizon, so I always have coverage.

"iPhone vs Droid vs N900 vs Hero", I don't know much about Droid and N900, but iPhone and Hero are already low-end in my book (I like Android w/ Sense UI though). HTC Dragon and HTC HD2 is where is at. If Dragon is fully confirmed anyways.

*grabs popcorn and sits next to you*]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
I forgot another contender Sprint has. How could I!! The Samsung Moment sporting 800 MHz and Full Qwerty Keyboard. I think it is a nice step up from the Hero and being able to port Sense UI **awesomeness**

Oh by the way, Rhapsody and Napster are coming to Android before the end of the year and also the Flash 10.1 beta.

Also don't forget T-Mobile rolling the 21 mbps data connection. I am sure that The German daddy won't let his US baby die out... That I guarantee or my name is not Oliver Henrie Louis des Roches Valencia Schnitzel !]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/The Samsung Moment does sound nice, but we also know the average customer could care less about processing speed since they don't even know what it is. I'm sure a wave of phones like that are bound to turn into something positive though.
I'm all hyped for this Flash 10.1 business too.

Agree on HSPA+ of 21mbps, I actually find it sad that they will try and push it nationwide than Sprint has taken to roll out their phone WiMax (which I'm still waiting for). Then again, T-Mo has less towers to work on, they need to get much bigger than they're now, that's for sure. And AT&T needs to get knocked down >_>.]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
The iphone is cooking their new iPhone 3GS-F. The F stands for Flash in the camera and will charge $$$ again! yay!]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Yes, seems like it. Thanks for the info.]]>Oct 18th 2009 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
I'm honestly surprised none of the networks did that before (but then again you say they have?)]]>Oct 19th 2009 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 19th 2009 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/Oct 18th 2009 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/The rest of the world gets crazy phones like touch HD, and all other nokia high end phones, whereas here in the states, we have to live with only carrier subsidized phones. I guess t-mo is trying to work the european system in the states, which is how they can not manage to offer the powerful HD2 and N900...
I can see a wave of amazing phones coming here finally... ]]>Oct 18th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/18/t-mobiles-project-dark-includes-option-for-buying-phones-in-mon/
BUY WHAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD!
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