http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/ Engadget Comments for Nokia patent app reveals dreams of pressure-sensitive multitouch interface http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
but still, cool that they're incorporating multitouch with the pressure sensitive for new functions.]]>Oct 24th 2009 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/iTouch doesnt have one.
eat that mactards!!!]]>Oct 24th 2009 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
]]>Oct 24th 2009 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/eats their lunch. ]]>Oct 24th 2009 11:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Windows+Mobile/Zune/news.asp?c=15985

The whole article is very interesting and worth reading completely. But yes, according to a developer working on games for the Zune HD, to be released next month the Zune HD has "touch pressure sensitivity".]]>Oct 25th 2009 12:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/since when did the Zune HD or ipod Touch have pressure sensitive multi-touch screens.
and no, the blackberry storm doesnt. im not sure about the 2nd coming out, but i dont remember it being pressure sensitive. i may be wrong.]]>Oct 25th 2009 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/"...A user of the electronic device is enabled to control the electronic device by using different levels and directions of force and/or torque directed to the sensor surface."

From what I can gather, the two squares to either side of the screen (203a,b) are somehow able to detect how hard the screen is pushed down. However there are no buttons involved in this implementation, which is pretty cool.]]>Oct 24th 2009 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
Piezo is much different than that. I'm sure you're just confused on the various technologies and how they work. The Storm 1 uses a button, the Storm 2 passes electricity under the screen when this layer is pushed it reacts by pushing back, giving it the "sponge" effect that many have commented on in past articles.]]>Oct 24th 2009 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
Nokia already has filed for one more patent which is similar to Blackberry Storm 2's piezoelectric sensors touch implementation.

http://www.unwiredview.com/2008/07/08/nokia-haptikos-tactile-touchscreen-details-emerge/

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the HP tx2z already does multi touch and pressure sensivity
well, only when you use the pen. but still!!

multi touch +pressure sensivity]]>Oct 24th 2009 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
reminds me why light travels faster than sound:
people appear bright until you hear them speak.

should give you something to think about shyam]]>Oct 24th 2009 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/stantums-mind-blowing-multitouch-interface-on-video/
could it be similar to this technology?]]>Oct 25th 2009 2:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/*cue Pac Man music*]]>Oct 24th 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 5:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 24th 2009 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
It would be able to connect to and control an external USB drive or USB dac or straight up print to a USB printer. The OS also has a lot of potential as it is the closest to desktop linux and is not a layer on top of Linux like everyone else. We'll really have to see how it plays out in practice. All I know is that this company needs a complete philosophical renewal if it to make Maemo work. That S60 crap treatment including poor service, FW updates that reach different countries in different months/years, FW updates that break functionality, PC software that blows chunks, features on the spec list that don't really work (note to Nokia: You can't say you support VPN and then make it only work with Nokia VPN appliances, or say you support WPA2-enterprise and have nearly everyone not be able to get it to work), and just the general attitude of taking the customer for granted. It's time to get back to work again, the vacation's over. ]]>Oct 25th 2009 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 1:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
Resistive = two seperate layers, when pushed together at a point, form an electrical connection which is registered as a 'touch'. There is no 'pressure sensetivity', only percieved changes in pressure depending on how hard it is to connect the two layers. If you press hard on a resistive screen, it will do exactly the same thing as if you pressed softly.

Capacitive = single layer in which a constant electrical current is passed continuously. When this current is disrupted (say, by a finger), it registers where, and marks it as a 'touch'. If you apply more pressure, it will do nothing, because the current doesn't care how hard you're breaking it.

This = capaitive, but with a 'floating' screen that is attached to a seperate pressure sensor, so that the capacitive layer and pressure sensor work in tandem: the capacitor picks up where the actual screen is touched, the pressure sensor picks up how HARD the screen is touched (pressed) - something that the capacitive layer cannot sense.]]>Oct 25th 2009 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
No, resistive screen CAN be pressure sensitive. The harder you press, the lower the resistance gets (because of a larger contact area).]]>Oct 25th 2009 7:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 4:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/>parallel< is the keyword here.
The 8 sensorblocks 2 each side of LCM sense the force the user applies to "slide" the whole LCM to either side, or rotate it.
That's a rather useless info, given you got the total of pressure *down* on the LCM plus the vectors of movement of the touchpoint(s) - as the only additional info you get then is the amount of friction coefficient introduced by the LCM surface and users finger (dry or rubbergloves).
Usual r-ts can do pressure sensing to some extent (see N810), and (not commonly known) even can do some basic multitouch (by special circuitry driving the R-planes).
So I don't see much revolutionary new concepts coming from this patent

jOERG (DocScrutinizer)]]>Oct 25th 2009 6:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Patents already granted by ... Apple!
"Force and location sensitive display ", patent # 7,511,702, filed May 2006, granted March 2009.
"Force imaging input device and system", patent # 7,538,760, filed March 2006, granted May 2009.
Cheers]]>Oct 25th 2009 8:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Capacitive
-Atmel
-Cypress Semi
Resistive
-Stantum
-SiMa Systems

The true advantage of pressure sensitivity (measuring the z-axis) on multi-touch devices is the ability to navigate, then activate by adding slightly more pressure. This eliminates the need to navigate then lift and retouch the device to activate which lowers accuracy significantly, therby reducing the user experience.]]>Oct 25th 2009 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/Oct 25th 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/24/nokia-patent-app-reveals-dreams-of-pressure-sensitive-multitouch/
The inventor seems to be rather active in the area of user interface patents. Gyro Gearloose of Nokia?]]>Dec 15th 2009 8:05AM