http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/ Engadget Comments for Dell and Envision Solar refashion parking lot into clean energy farm, EV recharge station (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 6:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 6:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
There are several deserts that would be a better location for solar farms. Fact is that it's not profitable to set them up yet. ]]>Oct 26th 2009 6:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/It would be greater to set up solar farms in the desert, but the problem is how to get the energy from there, to where it is needed. I think this is a good idea as it can be used and stored directly with whatever is around it.]]>Oct 26th 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
Use a long cable.]]>Oct 26th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
This looks like a publicity stunt to regain some of the market share that they've been losing......]]>Oct 26th 2009 6:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 6:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 27th 2009 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
Doesn't it cost more energy to create a solar cell that the energy it can harvest in it's lifetime?

PS - some of the speeches in the video is feel good yeah? Like that lead acid battery guy... wish i was as optimistic :( ]]>Oct 26th 2009 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
Do you actually work for a fossil fuel company or are you really that misinformed?]]>Oct 26th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
It's a good PR move but like many other rational people in this world..... the money is better spent on the core products of the company *today* and when Solar is cost justified (and it WILL BE) that they should spend the money then.]]>Oct 26th 2009 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
I like this solar parking lot idea, would keep cities cooler thus less AC on in the summer, saves energy on several levels if its implemented on a large enough scale.
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It was something like they took more energy to produce then they would create. That may or may not be true anymore.]]>Oct 26th 2009 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/]]>Oct 26th 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
I don't know how much office space they have but at 130kW peak output, they probably won't be offsetting that much load.

Still, its a promising step in the right direction - and good to see the V2G integration too.
]]>Oct 26th 2009 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Hell, looks like trucks and SUVs out number the cars in that lot, none of which look electric. I think I even see two old Datsun Z'z in there, but hey, that is cool!]]>Oct 26th 2009 7:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 8:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/I'm sure Big Brother would figure it out for you.]]>Oct 26th 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
should be reworded to:

"we can't help but suspect that people working at the company are frustrated that part of their salary is going to such a inefficient gathering of energy."

That is to say... if Dell had millions to spend on this in hopes of breaking "even" 7-21 years from now, some of that money would have gone to employees or at the very least should have been reinvested in their core products to keep shareholders happy.

Don't misunderstand...these types of investment are interesting and the geek in me loves it... but If I had the choice between a new office chair for $500 or $300 in my pocket and $200 reinvested in my companies core products...well you get the point.]]>Oct 26th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
Not to mention that every one of these silly, inefficient messes someone creates help to move us towards a working, sensible model in the future.

The first Electric cars are an example. Without silly contraptions like the Honda Insight we might not have the Hybrids that are so popular today.]]>Oct 26th 2009 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/
Pretty cool, but there aren't too many electric cars that'll be taking advantage of the charging station anytime soon.]]>Oct 26th 2009 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/Oct 26th 2009 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/dell-and-envision-solar-refashion-parking-lot-into-clean-energy/I have been told that the payback is approximately 7 to 7 3/4 years if you add in the $245k they get from the electric company, tax credits and all. Not a bad deal. I got to speak with the project manager from McBride [Mike]and received quite a bit of "411" on the system and all. I expect that this is just the first step with Dell as they wanted this to be a "billboard" so-to-speak as roof top units would not be seen by the public. As a Dell employee, I LOVE IT. I think it a wise investment]]>Nov 1st 2009 5:03PM