http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 4:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://developer.apple.com/softwarelicensing/agreements/pdf/MiniDisplayPortImpLicense.pdf

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That might have something to do with the slow uptake of the Mini-DisplayPort connector with third parties.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
oh oh sorry i read the headlines wrong. Thought this was about microsoft.

oh its apple, well you know its not such a major feature that anyone will use anyway and if you really need a second monitor that bad buy an apple studio display. Plus apple told everyone in advance that this was going to happen. Stop making such a big deal out of it Engadget. Steve hasnt hurt anyone, he just wants to make the world a better place. ]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
PS: If your comment was sarcasm, please forgive my comment. ]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
I am not defending Apple's position -- I really think they should include HDMI. If I were the owner of a brand new iMac, I'd be pissed off at having to wait for a special adapter to hook up my console.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/how cute ]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/No it doesn't. Look it up. HDMI 1.3 has 10.2 gigabits/second bandwidth and DisplayPort has 8.64 gigabits/second bandwidth. DisplayPort has more bandwidth than HDMI 1.2, but HDMI 1.3 was actually out before DisplayPort devices were, so DisplayPort has never in practice had more bandwidth than HDMI.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/The main reason to go DisplayPort is because there is no licensing cost

Reminds me of the time everyone got mad because new models their favorite PMPs didn't playback MPEG, it's because the patent holders starting demanding payment]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
None of that stuff really matters for the iMac, but for the DP vs HDMI argument it should be considered.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
So it seems that the advantage of DisplayPort is that it's more open: no need to pay licensing fees.

I am sure Apple could afford the $1 or whatever it is adding HDMI as well without passing it on directly to the consumer. I'll say it again: if I was the owner of a brand new iMac, I would be pissed off at having to buy another cable or adapter. I wouldn't understand why Apple couldn't couldn't just have both HDMI and DisplayPort on the iMac. Considering how widespread HDMI is, that would make sense.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
The ethernet in HDMI 1.4 is only 100Base-T. I'm not giving up GigE.

Besides, Apple still doesn't even have audio over DisplayPort right now. That's a complete drag. At least with real HDMI devices you do get audio. Uncompressed audio. For DisplayPort, it's still "coming soon".]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
DisplayPort supports and alternate encryption system, DPCP, but in practice no one uses it, links use HDCP, which then makes your connectors no longer royalty free.]]>Oct 27th 2009 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
This is great for monitors with built-in webcams or multi-touch surfaces. It's not all about bandwidth.]]>Oct 27th 2009 4:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
I know very little about HDMI, but i own a Mac so I'm going to splurt out what little I know about Apple's fancy plug thingy. Jobs is my hero!]]>Oct 27th 2009 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 29th 2009 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
by your logic, if you tied your monitor to your desktop, the monitor would no longer exist but would magically fuse with the desktop to form a freak chimeric unicorn?

the MONITOR came bundled together with the iMac, they just happen to be in the same package. i don't see how this is any different than normally buying a monitor and desktop together.

apple chose to support the monitor feature, but since they're greedy bitches, they're only doing so if they get a cut of the profit.

i don't see how there's any other way to read it.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 1:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 7:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
Also, if you're worried about the motherboard going in two years, buy a warranty.]]>Oct 27th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
APPLE CHOSE TO SUPPORT THE MONITOR FEATURE BUT ARE ONLY RESTRICTING IT TO APPLE DEVICES.

YOUR LAPTOP COULD NEVER SUPPORT A MONITOR FEATURE TO BEGIN WITH.

stop trying to compare apples to oranges. analogy fail.]]>Oct 27th 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
Thats the silver lining to this cloud? That users will be able to fix this by throwing more money at apple?

And good work with the disclaimer at the beginning, like we expected apple to let us do something like that?]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 4:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
because this is Engadget. ]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
Have you mob (engadget) got it to work with anything?!]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/
The latest BS from them is with my 13" MBP and the Mini DisplayPort -> VGA adapter I bought from the Apple store. Their own adapter doesn't even work. I had to go out and buy yet another adapter (Mini DisplayPort -> DVI) and a DVI -> HDMI adapter cable just to use my MBP with my LCD TV (Samsung).

I know of no other company that pulls this kind of crap on their customers on a regular basis.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/new-imac-doesnt-play-nice-with-apples-mini-displayport-to-dvi/Oct 27th 2009 12:20AM