http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
OMG, my world has collapse!

Yes Joseph, let's bash Microsoft!]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/It was a joke. Lighten up.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
I'm actually glad Engadget brought this up...
Someone needs to pressure them..]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/and the Zune play count is the biggest failure by Microsoft

M/S JUST ADDED A WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF DICK MEASURING TO MUSIC

seriously the play count doesn't effect any other part of the zune software, it'll get fixed eventually
if people are complaining that they cant meet new people through zune social, they should GTFO and go outside that how i meet people.

this is the biggest none issue in zune history ]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
The implication is in the title of this post: "...nary a firmware fix in sight"]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
what are we to dooooooo?!??!!!!]]>Oct 27th 2009 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
I'm finding myself deleting my Zune Friends to make room for the 360 ones....Damn you MS for your minuscule 100 friend count limit....]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/No, I don't sync with iTunes.
Yes, it wipes my "playcount."

But, whatever... My self-esteem is not linked to the total number of tracks/songs I've heard on my PMP.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
I don't recall thousands of Zune 120's getting bricked by a firmware update. It sounds like the firmware update failure was the symptom that something was already bad inside your unit.

Consumer electronics have warranties. When your warranty expires, don't act like you didn't know there was a time limit.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
Or better yet, please give me a list of reasons why Apple doesn't give release dates on their products...]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/"please give me a list of reasons why Apple doesn't give release dates on their products..."

What do product releases have to do with bugfixes?

@NOCknock
"If I had to guess, I would say because it's a pissy little hiccup in the multitude of software their developers are working on? Sound reasonable?"

To quote yourself... Same ol' reason,form over functionality.]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
"What do product releases have to do with bugfixes?"

Nothing, just comparing how hard it is to list reasons for both.]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
Not much time was spent, I assure you. People who spout form over function randomly in various Apple product posts amuse me. Especially those who have never used one. ]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/2. Digital Cable Tuner compatibility in Windows 7. Supposed to be Oct 22, not there, no date announced.


There's your list, prick. Seems to me there is a pattern developing here.]]>Oct 27th 2009 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
Basically they say the Zune team knows about this and considers it a big deal and is working on it. They talked about how it IS a big deal to release new firmware and I took it as they don't want to release a patch just for a playcount fix, but it will be fixed in the next big firmware release which we all know is coming this November, so probably a few weeks.

]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/I didn't care about play counts before, and I doubt I'm going to start caring now.
*goes back to listening to the sounds coming out of that sweet sounds coming out of his tegra infused goodness*]]>Oct 27th 2009 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
Zune's social features rely on playcount to function at all. If you don't use the social features then hey good for you, but I do and it sucks. Let me explain why:

With proper playcounts, Zune social is able to show the top listeners to bands. Bands which may be your or my favorite band. It's cool to be able to see top listeners for that band and then see what else those top listeners are listening too. This is how I've discovered what are now some of my favorite bands!

So without proper playcount, this feature is completely broken. Also any music recommendations from Zune will be flawed without accurate playcount.

Also all of my Auto-playlist that I created based on playcount are useless. For example, I have a auto-playlist that is for songs played less than 1 time. This is an easy way for me to listen to tracks on my Zune that I've failed to listen to yet. Non Zune Pass users might not understand this, but with Zune pass you are exposed to and download tons of music just because you can with Zune Pass. So it's easy for all that new music to be lost in the fray. Auto-Playlists is the way I use to find some of that stuff and make sure I actually get to listen to this new music I've downloaded.

So all of these things are completely broken if an accurate playcount is not being taken. And let me tell you it has been annoying as hell and has really detracted from my experience with the Zune HD. This has taken away features that I have made great use of in the past and I'm not happy that their gone now and that MS has sat on their ass for 1 month and not fixed it yet!

I totally thing this is a big deal. ]]>Oct 27th 2009 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/Oct 27th 2009 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
People have been complaining about this for years, with nary a software fix in sight.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
Maybe MS should have held off releaseing the thing until november as it the unit is just nice eye candy.]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
I'm pretty happy with my Zune HD as it is. If they can do anything to make it better that would be great, but why complain about the best PMP on the market?]]>Oct 27th 2009 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/zune-hd-stops-syncing-playcounts-with-nary-a-firmware-fix-in-sit/
I've seen all the TV shows in the marketplace when they were updating the site for 4.0. They took them down by the time they finished I assume they are setting them up for the Nov update since anything you buy will available on Zune and Xbox.]]>Oct 27th 2009 5:10PM