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iTunes + Quicktime gets forced every time... What a bag of hurt!]]>Oct 29th 2009 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/*Millions of end-user computers downloading and installing + quicktime (8 minutes intensive usage of processor, internet, hard-drive?)
*millions of routers
*ISP's distributing terabytes of data
*servers of apple sending gazillion bytes

... Is it really worth that much to block 50 palm-pre users?This so called 'Green' company could also just offer a patch of 100kb (imo the updates aren't worth more than that)
And I feel guilty leaving on my economic light in the hallway...]]>Oct 30th 2009 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/]]>Oct 29th 2009 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 30th 2009 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
*ducks for cover*]]>Oct 29th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/oh w8, it doesnt have to.]]>Oct 29th 2009 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
iTunes is simply CRAP!
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Trying to blame Apple for breaking Pre syncing is like somebody who breaks into your house, stabs your kids and rapes your wife suing you from jail because he stubbed his toe in your house.]]>Oct 29th 2009 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
What would those underlying problems be? Blue Screens of Death, and the other marketing Apple feeds you?

Apple Marketing = Genius. Everyone and their mother mistakes it actual evidence and not just marketing and ads.]]>Oct 29th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
Sit down before you hurt yourself. Pre's method of syncing with iTunes breaks absolutely no trademark laws. Since you clearly have no knowledge of trademark law, why are you trying to talk about it?]]>Oct 29th 2009 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
Oh wait. No it isn't.

Also, it seems that the USB IF has taken issue with Palm doing this too. You can't use another device's identifier.]]>Oct 29th 2009 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
There are no trademark issues. If Palm had [i]named[/i] the Pre the "iPod Pre", or something like that, it would be a trademark violation, but using the term "iPod" in their metatag code isn't a trademark violation.

There's one thing that bothers me, though: The way that Palm has chosen to emulate the iPod in Media Sync mode, there aren't any "Palm" or "Pre" tags left. I'm not sure what implications that would have, but it seems to me that it may not be such a great idea to [i]completely[/i] erase the differences. ]]>Oct 29th 2009 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
If we look at a "Software Update" its a new release of software code to end users which enables new functionality and possibly enables new features, while addressing (and hopefully fixing old bugs.)

Pre sync can be called a bug, so really, it is a software update.]]>Oct 30th 2009 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
Should Palm continue to seek access to iTunes for their devices without going through the proper channels, things could get interesting. Otherwise, there is no news here, outside of the AppleTV support.]]>Oct 30th 2009 1:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
As bhartman pointed out, that isn't what Palm is doing... so trademark isn't even on the table. Even though I am sure it is pointless, because you are probably an Apple fan boi who won't listen to reason (btw... I don't mean to imply that all Apple fans can't listen to reason, just the particularl subset that is too rapid in their love of Apple to see anything that goes against the Jobsian mothership), I will explain why this can't be trademark infringement.

The counterargument by Apple fans like you is that when the Pre is plugged into iTunes, it identifies as an iPod. There are two problems with that argument, from a legal standpoint. First, Palm is not the party affixing the "iPod" trademark to the Pre. iTunes does (which is made by Apple... so legally, Apple is the party that is naming the Pre an "iPod"). Palm just rigged the Pre to exploit iTunes's inability to tell the difference. Not ethical on Palm's part, but not trying to palm off it's products as Apple's (the requirement for trademark infringement). Second, and more important, trademark infringement occurs when someone else's trademark is used at a point of sale or in advertisements. At the point of sale and in ads, it couldn't be more clear that the Pre is a Palm and not an Apple product. People aren't buying the Pre thinking "Because this says it's an iPod when I plug it into iTunes, it must be an Apple iPod," because they don't see that happening until they've already made the purchase. No use at the point of sale or in advertising equals no liklihood of confusion (another requirement for trademark infringement).

I repeat... please sit down before you hurt yourself. You sound like an idiot insisting that you are right when you have been demonstrated to be absolutely, and completely wrong.]]>Oct 30th 2009 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
I don't think this one is new... ]]>Oct 29th 2009 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
http://www.precentral.net/itunes-updated-902-pre-sync-dead-again]]>Oct 29th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
no Palm probably isn't breaking any laws (false advertising perhaps) but what they are going still isn't cricket. and the USB-IF has called them on it. But they flipped the group the finger and flat said they were going to continue. not cool. it won't be shocking if their license to use USB gets cut on them. oops

also, Templarian, would you rather that they update all the time than never. especially when you can wait on many of the updates and have no loss of function. the Palm Pre folks do it all the time. ]]>Oct 29th 2009 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/
In fact why not open up iTunes and license it to many manufacturers or are they worried their hardware will not stack up with the competition. Surely they will end up making a lot more money from content sales then hardware sales..... just thinking out loud so don't shoot me if I am way off the mark

]]>Oct 30th 2009 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Conventional wisdom has been that the iTunes store is a loss-leader and not really a money maker. After royalties, credit card fees, bandwidth, and other misc expenses, there is not much left of the .99. Certainly not enough for Apple to go through the hassle of supporting several different devices. iTunes original intent (and likely current) was to sell the hardware, and now Palm is trying to piggyback off of that. The funny part is that an iTunes library is just a very readable xml file. All Palm has to do is build a small syncing app that reads the information in that file and puts it on your phone. Palm is alienating their customers and looking stupid just to stick it to Apple a little every month or two. ]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/itunes-goes-9-0-2-adds-support-for-apple-tv-3-0-and-a-new-look/Oct 29th 2009 3:16PM