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They write them to be as protective as possible of the corporation (and arguably, with good reason). That way, if there's any question in court, since people love to sue, they can have all their bases covered.

Even if the company puts something in the EULA that doesn't stand up in court, they probably won't be penalized for it, but will just have to remove it. Since most people have to agree to arbitration when they sign any contract these days, whatever is enforceable in the agreement tends to benefit the company favorably.

Think of it like the nuclear arms race, except in this case it's the stockpiling of legalese. ]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 31st 2009 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Nov 2nd 2009 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://q2cfestival.com/play.php?lecture_id=7748]]>Oct 30th 2009 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Source: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/23/2315211]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/If you were prosecuted by walmart for piracy you would have a lot more to worry about than losing your CD collection!
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Makes you wonder if these corporate giants ever read the EULAs their own lawyers came up with or not, to see what kind of PR damage a poorly written one could do. Apple sure didn't win any hearts with the last one after all. ]]>Oct 30th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
Uh you can't run the Palm Pre because of the lock on I-tunes. You obviously have the whole lock/DRM thing backwards. Its not the computer its the device that is locked.]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
Oh, really?

To quote your 2006 article "However, that complaint was apparently ignored without comment by Norway's Consumer Ombudsman." Not that the eventual(?) "Official Support" did them any good. I doubt this dispute will lead the industry, anywhere it's not already going.]]>Oct 30th 2009 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
It’s a bit like Blockbuster saying you can’t be a member anymore and taking away the films you have on loan (lifetime loan in Kindle’s case)

I for one like to properly own the media I pay for so won’t be getting a Kindle.
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I've heard the argument that copying music is not equal to shoplifting so why do you make the same comparison when it serves your interests?]]>Oct 30th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
There is no comparison made between shoplifting and digital pirating... stop being a tard.]]>Oct 30th 2009 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
So in Norway, you CAN copy the CD you bought!]]>Oct 30th 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
I feel I just stepped out of a hole after many years, after reading so much stuff about DRM and never knowing about this..

/actually, no sarcasm at all]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=150066216

"The annual Human Development Index by the United Nations Development Programme, takes into account life expectancy, literacy, school enrolment and per capita gross domestic product in 182 countries."]]>Oct 30th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/The consumer protection law also trumps any EULA. So if the EULA is contradicting the consumer law, the consumer law is always "right". An example of this is that you can (IANAL) install OS X on a non-mac pc without breaking any laws, because the consumer protection laws say that if you have bought it, you can do what you want with it (not including copying etc), trumping the clause in the EULA that says that you can't install OS X on non-mac hardware...

Bah... Whatever... I want the Nook anyway ;)

Christian W.]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
But I'd trade rights for price anytime!]]>Oct 30th 2009 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
I completely agree. A+++++++]]>Oct 30th 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
"Men are born and always continue free and equal in respect to their rights. Civil distinctions can be founded only on public utility."]]>Oct 30th 2009 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/
It's probably a press shot that they dug up online you tool, they didnt want to use the good pic that the read link posted...]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Oct 30th 2009 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/I would be his boyfriend if i could... =)]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/important-norwegian-consumer-reads-amazon-kindles-eula-sends-a/Yeah, God forbid anyone should actually try and look out for consumer rights in the digital era. Let's just take what the companies choose give us. Thanks, Engadget!]]>Oct 30th 2009 10:26AM