http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
This is such a deal!]]>Nov 2nd 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
That's not true: Orange will give you a 12 month contract: http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/plans/planList.jsp?func=12&tenure=12&_requestid=394398 - they just "encourage" you to sign up for a longer one by making the 12 month deals pretty dire.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/All the rest of the 'proper' networks )ie not MVNOs) offer 12 month tariffs on at least some handsets but, as already mentioned, they're pretty dire.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
I didn't actually know that; when I was looking for a new mobile network a year ago, the guy in the Vodafone shop told me that they don't do them and I got told the same (for all networks) in CPW. I really ought to know better than to trust someone who bathes in Lynx and uses chip fat to style their hair.

And funnily enough, I went to O2 from Orange because I couldn't stand the damn animal plans.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/On a lot of higher-end handsets, the networks do remove the 12-month options.

But, if you were just asking a general question, then both of them lied.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
O2's fair usage policy is actually, UNLIMITED, don't know where you saw this 200MB limit.

I tethered my iPhone and downloaded Windows 7 RTM. I didn't hear anything from O2.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
It is still 200MB, they just don't tell you.
But the point is it's an FUP, not a limit, the two are very different things.

Anyway, tethering's an entirely separate matter, they have different bundles.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
http://www.cultofmac.com/orange-fails-to-impress-with-750mb-data-limit/20210]]>Nov 2nd 2009 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Limiting you to the afore-mentioned 200MB.

The way O2 choose to market their 'unlimited' web bundle may have changed but they still retain the right to limit you if 'use them [the web or wi-fi bolt-ons] in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers', which will include very heavy usage.

Once again, if the web-bundle was truly unlimited, they would not have those caveats in place.


Also, if O2's web-bundle is truly unlimited, why do they keep telling their retail partners that it's a 200MB/month FUP?]]>Nov 2nd 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Also, technically, if we look at things from a very pessimistic view-point, O2 have written the terms in such a way that allows them to cut people off at any time, no matter how low their usage, if they deem it unacceptable - you don't get any guaranteed amount like you do with other networks.

But that's an aside, not what I was here to talk about at all.

Basically, what I wanted to say was if you don't want to believe me, that's fine. In fact, that's brilliant (with no hint of sarcasm). It's your God-given, legally-protected right to think what you want.
If you'd read what I have, you might not hold the same opinion. Then again, you might.

Either way though, I was merely sharing the information I have seen with my own two eyes to help other people and, in the nicest possible sense, I have no urge to get into an extended debate with yourself as it'll achieve nothing.
Peace and goodnight.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
Cancer curing product!*

*Does not cure cancer.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
I thought the UK had better prices on phone plans... Are these regular plans or some special made ones for the iPhone?]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
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T-Mobile and 3: 1GB/month
Orange: will be 750MB/month
Vodafone: 500MB/month
O2: 200MB/month

You have to remember, these are Fair Use Policies, not limits.
You will not be charged the moment you exceed the threshold, just if you repeatedly exceed it by an unreasonable margin (ie take the piss and try and host a web server or whatever).]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
They are, de facto, limits. You can call them the Holy Internet Commandments if you want... they still limit your internet usage.

And you really don't need to host a server to exceed 750MB. Try Youtube, for example. Or something similar which works on an iPhone...]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
They are NOT limits - have you ever heard of an O2 iPhone user being charged for data usage? No.
But I bet plenty of them exceed 200MB/month.

And I never said you had to host a web server to exceed 750MB, I used it as a sarcastic example of the sort of people who will be charged/slowed-down/cut-off by networks for exceeding the FUPs by an UNREASONABLE amount.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/>Standard UK network 'unlimited' data bundle allowances"

you haven't seen Virgin Mobile's "unlimited internet".. 3GB a month for contracts, 1Gb a month on pay-as-you-go:
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=our.service.footer.sm068

their "unlimited mobile for a day" is just 25MB, costing £0.30.

I can't find out Three's fair use, it's referred to in many places, when I click on the tariffs detail button I get a pop up window and a failed to load plugin message.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/It's 1GB on all phone plans.

That makes a certain amount of sense as Virgin are an MVNO backing off of T-Mobile, so it figures that the FUP is the same.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/"Usage above this amount will constitute abuse and Orange may monitor usage, apply Network protection controls which may result in reduced speed of transmission and/or withdraw the Offer from your account if the fair usage policy is abused."
I wouldn't be comfortable using more than 750MB.

The terms are simply too limiting. Also reading further:
"Not to be used for other activities (e.g. using your handset as a modem, non-Orange internet based streaming services, voice or video over the internet, instant messaging, peer to peer file sharing, non-Orange internet based video). Should such use be detected notice may be given and Network protection controls applied to all services which Orange does not believe constitutes mobile browsing. This may result in reduced speed of transmission, suspension of data browsing services and/or suspension of your account."

Seems very bad to me.
What happened to the good old "you do what you want with your included MBs/GBs of data, but you'll get charged extra if you exceed it"?]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Just because they have the right to take action when you exceed the 750MB, that doesn't mean they will.

On other tariffs recently Orange have been offering the ability to 'upgrade' the web bundle. They come with a 500MB LIMIT (not FUP, not advertised as 'unlimited') per month but you can upgrade it to 5GB for an extra £5/month.
It's possible they may offer this with the iPhone but I doubt it - more likely, like O2, they'll just let most people use what they want and take out the handful of individuals who are abusing it.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
Where di you get this 200MB limit for O2.
O2's fir useage policy is UNLIMITED. Nowhere in their terms and conditions does it state any MB limit. It just says tht you shouldnt tether it etc
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Plus, for the first 18-24 months after the merger starts, the two brands will continue to operate independently.
They'll focus primarily on behind-the-scenes stuff, like merging the two computer systems etc.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
Hmm, someone's getting ripped off somewhere. ]]>Nov 2nd 2009 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/as its totally even, its just who has the better service/connection, and maybe customer service.

in that case i would go with orange.
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Still, too expensive for my liking though.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 8:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
How the hell is this unlimited?]]>Nov 2nd 2009 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
Anyway, I trust this puts any thoughts of a price war to bed.]]>Nov 2nd 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/
...anyone..?]]>Nov 2nd 2009 9:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/orange-uks-iphone-contract-and-pay-as-you-go-pricing-plans-detail/Nov 2nd 2009 9:26AM