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"held pace at 170fps when cranked up to 2,560x1,600"

That's just silly, for the record.]]>Nov 5th 2009 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/a Netcafe computer rental business (gaming surfing etc) with around 20 units
and both my choices can earn me back the money i will spend.

anyways nice to know that such a supercomputer is available for the rich public.]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
Core i7 Extreme? That processor should never be purchased ever. Pay over $400 for an increase of 130MHz over a 960? 6GB ram for something like this is also little bit dumb. Also, has anyone seen how they are running the RAID? I would be supremely disappointed if the weren't running a PCI-E hardware raid card. Being that they used 3 Radeon 5870's, I assume they wouldn't have been able to fit a RAID card in there. Its not needed in general, but for 7 grand I'd expect a hardware RAID for that pair of SSD's... and while they're at it, make those triple or quad ssd's.

On second thought though, don't ask me to build something like this till these Radeon supply problems have been solved. Not sure I've ever seen a card sold out this badly!]]>Nov 6th 2009 2:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
Processor: 3.3GHz Intel Core i7-975 Extreme Edition (overclocked to 3.98GHz)
Memory: 6GB DDR3
Storage : Two 80GB solid-state drives (RAID 0); one 2TB hard drive
Optical Drive: BD-ROM/DVD±RW combo
Monitor: None
Graphics: Three ATI Radeon HD 5870 cards (1GB DDR5 on each)
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)
]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
And I'm sure it has all those other specs too? Gaming doesn't need a lot of ram]]>Nov 5th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
Or better... buy 9 more of the boxes and cluster them. :P]]>Nov 5th 2009 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
It doesn't even have a Blu-ray burner...]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
And dual 80GB SSD is a bit cheap for a build like this. I'd expect double that at least in a nice RAID 0 stripe. ]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
Phew, thanks - I almost bought one from Maingear! ]]>Nov 6th 2009 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/but how much woulda cost if i go to newegg n grab all the components myself?]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.scan.co.uk/shops/dreampc/jellyfish for just under £10k thats $16 606 and have a really fast computer]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
i7 975 - $1000
EVGA Classified E760 - $400
3x HD 5870 - $1200
2x Intel SSD 80GB G2 - $550
Corsair Obsidian 800D Case - $300 (much higher quality than that piece of crap they're using...)
Prolimatech Megahalems + 2x high RPM Fans - $100 (again, beats the crap out of that mediocre asetek watercooling unit they used)
Enermax Revolution 85+ 1050W PSU - $300 (probably the highest quality PSU money can buy right now)
2TB WD HDD - $200
6GB DDR3-2000 - $200

Total: $4250

In other words, this thing has a $2000 premium over a machine with identical/higher quality hardware...

Who does Maingear think they are? Apple?]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Best warranties you'll see by default are 1 year warranties and 'limited lifetime' on the RAM.

It becomes a bit more reasonable once you take that into account.]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
Industry standard for CPU, GPU, Motherboard warranty is 3 years (though EVGA has lifetime for the their high-end boards and as does XFI for their GPUs), industry standard for HDDs and PSUs is 5 years (the Intel SSD only has 3 years though), and for the ram it's lifetime as you mentioned.

I guess having a whole system warranty is worth something but IMO it's a lot less convenient and more costly than RMAing individual components.]]>Nov 5th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
they're aiming it trust-fund kids, the military guy that has more than enough money to throw around and would rather just burn the cash than learn how to do it himself, and the rich family-man geek that doesn't have the time to put in the component testing to make sure that all of the options work together.

there is also something to be said for the cleanliness of the build and the custom overlay they did on that Raven01. Also, a complete system warranty can be very nice. one-stop shop for those with the cash. I'll admit it, if I had that kind of cash to just blow on things, I'd get this just to be sure that I had a no-nonsense machine as my main gaming rig. I'd satisfy my lust for hand-picking components for the other machines in my house and the machines I build for others.

/sulks away to his paltry- underpowered- gimp desktop. ='(]]>Nov 5th 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/The last time I had to use a warranty was a motherboard from newegg that they graciously handled after I pinpointed the problem to the board at 31 days after purchase (though it sounds like I could have talked to the manufacturer if NewEgg wasn't helpful).

The time before that was... literally 10 years ago when I had a hdd die on me.

Things usually die 4+ years after purchase for me, I guess.

Apologies for the misinformation then.]]>Nov 5th 2009 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/Nov 5th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
N.B. This is using Server grade SSDs in RAID 0

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/velocity_micro_raptor_signature_edition]]>Nov 5th 2009 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
And if you do have that kind of money to spend for that computer, I don't think 'large; heavy' would be on your short list or worries.]]>Nov 5th 2009 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/
I work in music publishing and we are 100% Mac environment. We have 4 printers, 2000+ fonts, require color and postscript exactness using 2 operating systems (OSX Leopard and Tiger, and OS9 [clsssic]). Our server is a G5 x-serve that has run continuously for 4+ years with 0... and I mean ZERO downtime, serving to OS9 machines, and OSX machines through every flavor up to Leopard.
Any issue with a computer is usually fixed within minutes (repair permission of this folder, restart classic, restart your machine and try again). The longest downtime of any client machine has been a warranty repair for a blown motherboard. This is out of 20ish macs ranging from G4 oldies to brand new core 2 duos. We still have 3 G4s running with all original parts after 5+ years of use, every weekday for 8 hours.

This all being said, I use a PC at home because I am a gamer.]]>Nov 5th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/maingear-shift-reviewed-7-000-can-shatter-a-lot-of-records/And.. my office computer that runs Windows XP is running 24 hours a day 5 days a week (I turn it off when I go home on Friday) without single crash since I started working (that's 3 years ago). Oh, and I never had any issues with my computer.
Mac is great, but it's still over-priced.]]>Nov 5th 2009 2:47PM