Apple TV 3.0.1 update prevents data from 'temporarily disappearing'
By Darren Murph 
posted November 7th 2009 6:51PM
posted November 7th 2009 6:51PM
posted November 7th 2009 6:51PM
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so does it disappear forever instead?
your thread probably will.
This isn't a thread, its a comment.
You comment on blogs.
You create threads on forums.
Other jokes you could have gone with;
I thought it was a feature!
How did they get this past their accountants for free?
Finally, they added cut, now all we need is the paste.
Is this for TV programmes? I just bought it cause it was pretty.
There are no movies because it's a great gaming device.
I'm not that good at my hobby either.
It was a hormone imbalance.
Because of age restrictions the Apple TV will delete all movies with a dictionary in shot.
Of course digital films don't sync, they don't weigh anything in water.
I apologise.
@ethan well done sir. 1 full internet for you.
As for Apple... why do they hate our data? We don't ask much from them, just to hang onto pictures and stuff. Doesn't seem like it is that hard of a concept.
Actually, drumwiz, it's a comment thread.
As soon as Jean P became the first person to reply to OneLove's post, his/her comment became the second one in sequential order to be displayed to all who read Engadget's comments -- no matter how many posts came after OneLove's but were not in reply to it.
They've gotten really good at making data disappear...are you sure they down own Danger?
Ethan:
You forgot: "Content is a bag of hurt"
Wow, Apple is Bug Central lately, I'm sure glad I don't have an Apple TV and I've disabled Guest Accounts on my Mac..
Make sure you back up everything in your time capsule.
what if my time capsule stuff temporarily disappears?
*superhobo's joke flies over JohnTitor head*
I would like to buy Apple TV, but I'm unsure if it plays DVDs stored on a local hard drive in folders (folder/video_TS...).
2nd thing I would like to know if it plays .wav files or at least some other loseless format apart from ALAC. Converting my library to Apple loseless would be enourmous task to take...
great product anyway, thanks
Enormous task? If it's already in iTunes you can just select all of it and tell it to convert the whole library (as long as you have enough space). It maintains all the tag data and leaves the originals in tact...It couldn't be easier actually.
@Aaron...Dude, you don't convert an already compressed song to another format. That's audio quality hell. This is why people should continue to buy CDs so that they have the REAL copy of it and not buy crap off itunes.
My assumption was that this individual had all his music in another lossless format already. People do rip to those you know?
Ah, so that's what just happened to me today. Well, at least the fix is in.
Impossible! Apple products "just work"!! Now if Apple could find a way to fix the disappearing Apple TV user base.
There's an app for that.
You mean an overpriced, one-trick pony that only streams media from an iTunes library isn't selling well?? I dont believe it.
BTW, what is Apple thinking with this thing? Its been out for years now & just kinda sat there, doing the same shit with no real upgrades to functionality. I bought one & sold it a couple weeks aftrewards after I realized how limited it was. Elegant, but limited.
One would be extremely stupid to buy this opposed to say the new WD TV Media Player with networking capabilities for $120 that can stream any media from any computer in the house to your TV in 1080p. Which BTW, it can also now stream your iTunes media as well from both PC & Mac thanks to Orb.
Apple's had a bit of a problem holding on to your data lately... its actually an unfinished feature where you pay monthly to keep your data from not deleting itself.
damn they caught on gonna have to report this to Steve to push up its launch date
I noticed that, too. Considering all of Apple's products revolve around the storage and manipulation of data, one would think they'd manage to figure out a way to make it not disappear arbitrarily.
I wonder if they told Anne that before she moved all her stuff over to a Mac? Didn't she have like 3 or 4 boxes? That could get kind of expensive.
I'm surprised with Apple.
First of all, let me get something off my chest... We just got 2 brand new 27" iMacs at work Friday and one of them has a problem where the fan constantly blows (literally) at high speed. Seriously, this started happening at first boot. When giving Tech Support a call, they responded by saying we needed to take it to the nearest Apple Store (a good couple hour's drive away). TO HELL WITH THAT! We're not wasting personal gas money just to fix what they screwed up! Fortunately, our boss kicked a few butts over the phone and arranged something.
They are a company that acts like they're perfect in every way. When you have a huge consumer base that encompasses both Hardware and Firmware, you BETTER. Makes me wonder where all that money is going...
zax, what the hell did you expect? steve jobs to fly his personal jet to your office that day and fix it for you? what would dell have done in the same situation? if your computer has a problem you have a few options: ship it back, drive to the store, or STFU.
Dell would have either offered a replacement or to have a person come out the next day. Apple wants you to drive to their store. Which one sounds better?
Blasphemer! My Mac is perfect, and there are data issues! I'm using it right now to type this comme
I got a shipment from Apple about 3 weeks ago for 10 new iMacs as well. 3 were DOA and another one's HDD died on tuesday. Apple's response, I will have to PAY to ship it to the nearest apple store just for some "Genius" to tell me its dead.
Now, what would dell have done in that situation, From past experience I would have 3 new machines on the loading dock waiting for me when I got to work the next day. And keep the DOA machines for parts :)
Apple makes nice machines, but their customer support is great, UNTIL something breaks. Then its somehow my fault because its perfect and "just works."
Not even going to start on this whole snow leopard debacle. And I thought my Win 7 migration was going to be hard.
Devin,
Dell support is on-site (i.e. they come to you)
Apple support is off-site (i.e. you go to them)
This is a key factor for an enterprise player when deciding if where to buy their computers from.
On a separate note, it would have been nice is Apple could have apologised in their email. When you break something that belongs to someone else, it's polite to at least say 'sorry'.
Apple TV update 3.1 temporarily disables the guest account until......hey wait...
it's temporary, trust me!!!
aww i see what u did there
"its not gonna have any of the problems snow leopard had"
"its not gonna have an explosions like the old iphone had"
"it not gonna delete you data the like the old guest accounts had"
"it not gonna kill you in your sleep the the old mac book pro had"
"it not gonna delete you movies like the old Apple TV 3.0.0 had"
someone with free time make a commercial there so much material out there
@Atlantian: You had me until the fourth one... wha?
As for material for ads, I kind of like the 'Here's what our operating system does, here's a feature, he's how it's used, here's how it's useful' approach the Windows 7 ads take.
The metaphorical data as cardboard boxes of 'stuff' with a smarmy justin long standing around in the middle of a blank room while making fun of Windows for god knows what reason... not so much.
OK. Own up. Who snuck rm -rf / into this shell script?
"Tap the read link for all the instructions..."
Are the instructions not in the picture?
Yes, but "Tap the read link so TUAW gets another click and we get some Ad money" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Well, well, well. Disappearing data, was that a feature introduced to the 3.0 version of the OS, like copy and paste on the iPhone, maybe Apple folk can backup all of their data on a TimeMachine to keep it safe. This has been a great couple of months for the computer industry, Microsoft is turning a corner, and Apple folk are looking at the mirror. Well, I could rant on, but I have to do an upgrade from XP to 7 on a friends PC, its a lot easier than a OSX Tiger to SnowLeopard upgrade.
Glad I got mine updated before anything happened to it.
Loving 3.0, BTW. iTunes LP is amazing in HD.
I'm sure the 5 engadget readers that have Apple TV's will be thrilled.
I saw the bug. I re-attached my AppleTV to my MBP and redownloaded my content. Today I applied the patch. :/
Me too (except there was no data loss). This is a non-issue. Nothing lost. 3.0 is a pretty minor update.
The Danger story was much bigger but it seems that only a few users in the end lost any of their data so it was over-hyped. You hear about the problem but no one reports on the resolution. Seems like we like to throw crap at Microsoft and Apple whenever they fart but can't be bothered to look at the big picture.
What's next ipods that delete all the music after watching a video? Seriously timecapsul,snow leopard, and now this? Apple is the old Microsoft.
I know, strange isn't it?
MIcrosoft's been on their game lately. Windows 7, Zune HD (Solid device despite sales) and Server 2008 R2 is kick ass. I'm hoping this momentum carries over to the courrier.
On a side note, I also find it strange that Windows 7 has been out for practically a year and I've heard more complaints about snow leopard in the past 3 months than i've heard about windows 7 all year. No major bugs yet. (That I know of, viruses not withstanding)
What I find is interesting is that not only are they seeming to trade places in reliability, they seem to be trading places in corporate image. Microsoft used to be seen as the controlling "our way or the highway" company, now Apple wins that contest hands down. Furthermore owning an Apple product used to be the height of hipness, now it just makes you look like a smug douche. So not only are the products going downhill, the fad has worn off and is no longer cool in and of itself. 3 years ago, it was a rare thing when you had more fanboys for MS posting comments than for Apple, now it is common.
Riding the bus most everyday, I used to see teenagers brandishing their iPods, and hipsters cradling the Mackbooks and iPhones as a status symbols. They would look around and make sure people notice them. Now its the middle aged women with iPhones, iPods stay in pockets and I have started to see more stickers covering the Apple logo on Macbooks. The teeneagers that used to flaunt their iPods are now more likely to be playing their music over the speaker of their non-iPhone.
I can't believe it, but I think Apple has significantly started to lose the one thing they had going for them, and that is image.
That's an incredible piece of logic. So, because other operating systems have problems, that means we can't talk about the problems in OS X?
If only every apple user would feel this way maybe these rants would not happen, but most just think that Steve Jobs is god and Cuppertino is heaven, and thats why comments like mine above are nessesary.
First of all, nobody said Window is perfect. Then again, people don't hate Apple because of their products (or at least that just me). I just hate the way they operate: badmouth other companies, always act high and mighty when their Os bugs all over the place.
Cheer!!! and sorry for any grammar mistake
So they're saying the content is only temporarily disappearing? You mean it's gone until you re-sync that content using iTunes? What happens if I had a movie that I legally purchased online via another vendor, synced it to my AppleTV, and then (stupidly) deleted that content from my computer to free up space? If that content disappeared it wouldn't exactly be temporary would it?
Why doesn't Apple call a spade a spade and just say; "Fixes the bug that randomly deletes your media."
We are talking about Apple here, and its recent mounting problems with their software. Who said anything about Microsoft and Windows? But if you really want to bring in Windows for this argument - Windows is a whole other bag of pain but one thing it never did, from Windows 1.0 to Windows 7, was to delete user files without confirmation...