http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 6:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/This is coming from someone who owns a Macbook Pro and a iPhone 3G[S].

I just think Microsoft has the upper hand in this. The Courier looks perfect for designers, and students. This Apple tablet is just going to be a large iPhone.]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
That damn Zune too, I heard it kills babies! ]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/---
This made me lol. I know a little birdie who hasn't used C# before, or Visual Studio. Then again, I suppose DOS, Win3.1 wasn't revolutionary at all. Or windows 95. Or DirectX. Or XNA.... Should I keep going?]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
But in fact it's a screen with a dock in back. You just hook up your iPod/Iphone and it displays everything on a large touch screen.

It will sell for $1999]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/This is coming from someone who owns a Macbook Pro and a iPhone 3G[S].

I just think Microsoft has the upper hand in this. The Courier looks perfect for designers, and students. This Apple tablet is just going to be a large iPhone."

Stephen, you took the words right out of my mouth. As a devoted Apple fan, I had a huge nerdgasm over the Courier, and can't imagine getting anything else in terms of portable computing.]]>Nov 12th 2009 9:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/ Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.]]>Nov 12th 2009 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/C#? Really? Blech. Just a Java knock-off, with the basic elements arbitrarily renamed.

Not that Objective-C is better, but, let's just discount any language that's proprietary, yeah? I still can't believe the government's handing out patents for *language*. ]]>Nov 12th 2009 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 6:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 7:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Resistive is the perfect method of achieving what this needs. People don't write/scribble lightly. While you write, you almost always use pressure. This would compliment this system well.

Resistive is your friend.]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/It isn't going to be capacitive, they make a multitouch-capable resistive screen.]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
Anyone who REALLY wants/needs both would be best of getting something like the latest generation Lenovo X tablet if they want that pressure sensitivity, or something else that has that "use a real paintbrush" functionality like the Stantum multitouch resistive technology (has anyone licensed that yet, because the demos of it were impressive).

http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=304

After reading the patent, I really can't see what's patentable here that would stand up to 'prior art', unless it's purely to do with recognizing 'ink phrases' when it comes to handwriting recognition, but even in that case, other methodologies have been around for years that work just as well.]]>Nov 12th 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
Agreed. The whole thing just looks like how my old Windows Mobile 2003 device did handwriting recognition. You could set it to "auto recognize", and when you wrote for a bit then paused, it would process the "ink" (even called it that) and try to convert to words.

How or why this is patentable is beyond me. Then again, it's only an application, so who knows.]]>Nov 12th 2009 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
More likely is a capacitive multitouch screen with some kind of RF pen. That's what current multitouch/pen tablets use.]]>Nov 16th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
Nope, on phones maybe, not here. You need to be able to 'hover' the pen above the screen and move it around the screen without touching it just like you would do with a mouse.

AFAIK, Wacom pen technology is the only one that will do that, plus it allows you to hold the screen in your hands without worrying about touching it and messing up what ur writing. Plus it gives pressure sensitivity and perhaps even tilt sensitivity and tip eraser too. IMO theres no pen technology that comes close.

Of course, if apple use this technology we'll no doubt see a lovely new world of people who assume apple have invented it ]]>Nov 12th 2009 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
It was a PUN... you know, intentional. Write - Right. Right?

PS... all you freaking hypocrites that were dissing stylii just a couple of hours ago are still not friends of mine... I require more consistency. You can't berate me for months / years, then all of a sudden jumb ship and praise the same damn thing you bereated me for.

Say it with me... "I am a Hypocrite and I know I should think more before I speak, and the urge to be smart is too strong, but the road to stupidity is so damn wide open."

OK, back to your pen fantasies. Sheesh.]]>Nov 12th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/A tablet has totally different purposes than a mobile phone. Sounds like an e-reader with media capabilities. color e-ink? hybrid?
I would love to write on such a thing.... with a stylus.]]>Nov 12th 2009 6:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 7:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
This isn't so much "a stylus is bad" but rather a stylus is only necessary in certain scenarios and should be avoided like the plague when possible.]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 7:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/It's called The iStylus.]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
I'm sure Palm will refuse and so will m$]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 8:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
In fact in trying to think of any companies that might refuse to license a patent to a competitor, it sounds far more like something Apple might do, not saying they have, just that it would fit into the Apple MO.
]]>Nov 12th 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
Come on..logically using a stylus to write is a more natural extention to using a pen on paper. Fingers are good for buttons but not writing with, unless you stick to a keyboard only.]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
People love to read into things others say that simply isn't there. And this article is obviously one of those times.]]>Nov 12th 2009 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
Whereas the Apple product just might be a "Big ass iPod Touch/iPhone", which would synchronize with iTunes/iCal, etc]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
Besides a professional / artist can create something no matter the medium he/she is working with. ]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 8:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/Nov 12th 2009 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/really? some of the best artwork today? you're joking right?]]>Nov 12th 2009 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
"best artwork"??

man oh man RDF has taken over your brain... You're incredibly vain and absolutely Mac-crazed if you seriously believe what you just wrote. No-one is criticizing your precious iPhone - no need to go up in arms to defend the "superior artistic interface" of a.... wait for it... 3.5 INCH display. Get over yourself man - oh and pull your head out of apple's a$$ - that isn't a tan on your nose...

It's unbelievable what some people will actually write in defense of a tiny little phone.

hrm... so when does Apple achieve legitimate cult status? I'm sure you're on the shortlist for membership...]]>Nov 12th 2009 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
I applaud your criticizm, far be it for you to actually talk about the device at hand, but try and take cheap shots at my personal character. As for Mac-crazed, hardly. I own several PCs , MacBook Pro, and an iPhone, although I am waiting for the Xperia X10 to replace it. So again, talk about the topic not me. I know I am vain and all, and I love myself, but you don't have to encourage it.

@tofug

Yes, some of the best art around, as far as mobile devices and handheld tablets go. The topic is Tablet computing, not art in general. I was defending the fact that these devices can be used for art, and they ARE being used for art, and their medium is producing some of the best art around.

Try not to generalize every discussion into a large group. If we were talking about a Movie here, and said it was a great work of art, by no means would it be great when setting next to a MC Escher.

See: http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/news/2009/02/submissions_iphone_art

]]>Nov 12th 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
All I can say here is that this time around Apple's gonna have to catch up with MS.]]>Nov 12th 2009 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
iPod never supports FLAC, iPhone/iPod Touch do not support the many awesome video codecs, etc.]]>Nov 12th 2009 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbkrk8-pjw]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/apples-patent-application-for-pen-based-computer-remembers-fing/
its made from ground up wizards teeth.]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:22AM