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iTroll...]]>Nov 13th 2009 2:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
John Elbridge Hudson joined the firm as counsel in 1880 and served as president from 1889 to 1900.

Bell Telephone Company in turn became the American Telephone & Telegraph Company (AT&T). AT&T would later undergo mergers with SBC Communications and BellSouth to become the New AT&T.

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i live in southern california and i can tell you that at&t absolutely sucks. i cant get more than a couple bars anywhere between riverside and LA. im dropping calls all the time and i'd say 20% of the time i cant make a call due to 0 bars. i can never make calls in grocery stores or department stores either. it's also killer on my battery life since the phone is always trying to connect. i've fought with them for almost a year now for them to do something about it but they keep switching me back and forth between customer service and the local store. the funny thing is, if you look at at&t's coverage strength map my house is literally inside a giant circle of their strongest coverageand yet to make a call i have to go upstairs and stand right next to the window. in june im switching to verizon because most of my friends have it and they ALWAYS have full strength service. sure the iphone is sorta cool but it's just a phone and it's really not so cool that it's worth sacrificing service for it. and for those who will down rank me as an apple hater, im using my mbp with my airport extreme and i also have a 2g touch. im simply an at&t hater.]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Southwestern Bell became SBC which then bought AT&T]]>Nov 12th 2009 10:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 13th 2009 1:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 13th 2009 3:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://bit.ly/att-vs-verizon

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For those of you who are also on an iPhone and complaining about constant dropped calls what sort of signal strength are you getting? You can check your signal strength on the iPhone by dialing *3001#12345#* (note if you try to save that number to an address book entry and auto-dial from there, it will not work)
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Also, the Land of Misfit Toys commercial had me laughing so hard I cried - then I wrote Santa a letter asking for better AT&T coverage (currently I can't maintain conversation at home OR work for more than a couple minutes without a seemingly random dropout - and I'm not even moving but SITTING THERE).

I love how the phone can just sit on my desk all day and go from 4 bars to 2 bars to No Service and back like magic. *sigh*]]>Nov 13th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
Eventually, government regulations/antitrust lawsuits (I don't remember the exact history here) caused the AT&T to get split up in the 1980s, forming AT&T (focusing on long distance service) and local telephone companys, known as Regional Bell Operating Companies or "Baby Bells".

Eventually government deregulation resulted in many RBOCs merging to form Verizon, AT&T going through various splits and mergers, and eventually one of the few RBOCs not part of Verizon (SBC) purchasing AT&T.

So it's pretty much Ma Bell on Ma Bell action going on here.]]>Nov 18th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
"Wow, I detect some real emotion coming from you guys. I haven't seen this side of you before"

I know, it's giving me a chubby.]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
i'm really proud of you engadget for having some articles that aren't all - 'love u iphone']]>Nov 12th 2009 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/

Hmm makes sense..Must have the Engadget comment section creator back there somewhere pulling the strings...]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
If Verizon paint its CDMA 2000 1XRTT coverage as 3G,
then it's totally fair that even if AT&T paints their EDGE as their 3G coverage

*If someone wants to argue that CDMA 2000 1XRTT is 3G, (even though it is slower than EDGE), just because CDMA 2000 is 3G;
then EDGE is 3G too, by International Telecommunication Union's standard

http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/imt-2000/DocumentsIMT2000/IMT-2000.pdf]]>Nov 12th 2009 10:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
No, the majority of VZW's markets are EVDO enabled. There isn't any foul play going on.]]>Nov 12th 2009 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
no, Raymond is correct. i posted a long comment about this in another article the other day. CDMA2000 is a hybrid of 1xrtt and evdo. cdma2000 is classified as 3g even though it includes 1xrtt, which is 2.5g. verizon is showing their entire "cdma2000" coverage map as their 3g map. edge is faster than 1xrtt, so raymond is absolutely correct that an apples to apples map would include edge on at&ts map.]]>Nov 13th 2009 2:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
You suck. You always have. You still do.

Quit whining like a big baby and get fixed.


Your pricing and tendencies to brag about yourself and whine about your competitors are too high, while your network speed, 3G coverage and reliability, and customer service quality are too low.

At this rate, you should be charging less per month than Sprint and T-Mobile for everything you offer.]]>Nov 14th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
But the NYNEX types in New York run it, so I guess it's fair to call it a Bell System descendant.]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/10/south-african-pigeon-transmits-data-faster-than-local-dsl/]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 13th 2009 12:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
--OK, it sucks -_-]]>Nov 13th 2009 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 13th 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/So all this verizon 3g coverage doesn't mean squat if you're on the phone and trying to pull up a map or e-mail.

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I think most people would much rather prefer to have reliable and consistent coverage, no dropped calls, and fast 3G service wherever they are. ]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
AT&T = Fail.

Please insert .25 cents and try again.

I also would like to comment about something that was said at theiphoneblog.com which is most happy AT&T customers feeling:

"In other words, AT&T is saying Verizon’s 3G coverage of mountains and lakes is impressive for the fish and eagles, but they think they have the humans and their “cities” covered just fine, thanks."

I think it's funny how AT&T only cares about those who live in densely populated areas. I for one was close to jumping ship to the iPhone a while ago, only to find out that where I live (population 5,000), the AT&T 3g is non existent. Meanwhile I have a full 5 bars of EVDO 3g sitting in my house with Verizon.

Easy choice. ]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/> "but something NOBODY mentions is that CDMA won't do simultaneous voice and data."

Almost every Blackberry I see that people have for business are on Verizon or Sprint ---> CDMA. They obviously don't miss simultaneous voice and data. Hell, neither do I... I have a Verizon Blackberry Curve.

Since Verizon is the biggest cell phone carrier in the USA... does that meant it's not that big of a problem? Or is it just a talking point when discussing AT&T's "superior" network?]]>Nov 12th 2009 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/Nov 12th 2009 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/I'm assuming you are trying to point out the multitasking problem with an iPhone. While true, it won't run multiple third party apps at the same time, an iPhone running on AT&T's 3G network has no problem with having someone be in the middle of a call while also using any application on the phone. Any application will still have the normal internet functionality during that time, so even if you are blabbing away to someone for 2 hours, e-mail still comes through, maps still work, and even updates to facebook could be posted. I'm actually kinda annoyed by this at times, as the iPhone will still vibrate to indicate new e-mail when it's next to your face during a phone call.

The same is true if the phone has WiFi access.

Yes, it is a valid point to bring up, as no phone on Sprint or Verizon can do this via 3G. Does it overcome AT&T's network issues in certain places that only certain people are troubled by? Depends on the person. I personally have no issues with AT&T in Austin, outside of the congestion problems when tons of iPhone users are in one place.]]>Nov 12th 2009 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/
That is, not including all the dropped calls and whatnot...

I guess I'd prefer a better reliable slow connection than a spotty faster one.

I wonder how Verizon's network would be if all the current iPhone users were on their network. Although VZ has excellent coverage, I hear they might not have a capable enough backend network to handle tons of data...]]>Nov 12th 2009 9:54PM