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JASON! JASON! JASON! JASON!

KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!]]>Nov 13th 2009 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
The form factor and build quality of the 700p was amazing... ]]>Nov 13th 2009 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
The 700p was crap! ]]>Nov 13th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
That's because he's RIGHT BEHIND YOU!]]>Nov 13th 2009 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
Speed is one thing, but I wonder how many of the features actually work on the phone. Booting is major impressive though. ]]>Nov 13th 2009 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
"If they suddenly found a way to load Web OS on the older devices"

You mean like this?

http://www.tealpoint.com/softos.htm
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I meant the Linux core and its UI. Then again, that would spell disaster for Palm.]]>Nov 13th 2009 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
The Linux bootloader launches within Palm OS. This bootloader consists of a 68k stub (all Palm OS programs must have at least this) that launches an ARMlet.

ARMlets have complete and total control of the system, as they actually run "outside" of Palm OS. (Most of Palm OS is 68k code. The ARMlet has to thunk back into the 68k code to actually interact with the OS.)

Anyway, this ARMlet has drivers to load the Linux kernel from an SD card. It relocates itself in memory where appropriate, and then begins loading the Linux kernel from the SD card. When doing this, it overwrites the Palm OS kernel in memory - Palm OS is now no longer able to run until the device is rebooted, and is not stealing any memory or clock cycles.

Once the Linux kernel is loaded, the ARMlet jumps to the Linux kernel to start it.

Convoluted, yes, but it's a proven approach - it's been done on everything from PDAs (for that matter, Android on WinMo devices does the same thing, except it's all native ARM code involved) to desktops (remember UMSDOS format and loadlin.exe?)]]>Nov 13th 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/]]>Nov 13th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
Now the newer PXA272 cpus probably have architectural benifits compared to old PXA25x and PXA26x CPUs, meaning they're faster on a clock to clock basis. But seeing as palmos never really took advantage of that, a 400 MHz PXA261 was faster than a 312 MHz PXA272. This is probably not the case in Android

Of course, older palms stored apps in the Ram (like pre-WinMo 5 PPCs), so anything older than a T5 is probably out anyways. Hmm, that leaves a bunch of 312 MHz treos, the Lifedrive, the T5 and (if you push it) a 200 mhz Tungsten E2, though I highly doubt that would be fast enough.

Yes, I knew most of this by heart, and Yes, I am a Palm geek.]]>Nov 13th 2009 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
I've booted a version of linux off it before using a 2GB sd card and cocoboot, but it's been a while.]]>Nov 13th 2009 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
They can keep the best parts of Palm OS and implement them on top of Android.

Although, if Palm does just completely go under then it can just happen then, whoever ends up owning the rights and brands associated with Palm will inevitably want to re deploy them again in some way, and there will only be more Android models on the market as the time goes by.

Android is just such an incredible cost saver for any OEM. It frees them from having to re invent the wheel with each new handset.]]>Nov 13th 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/I AM NOT TECHNICAL SAVEY.

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING::

1- TREO 680.

2- GOOGLE G MAIL

WILL THAT PROGRAM WORK ON MY 680?

IF YES WILL SOME ONE EXPLAIN HOW?

THANK YOU.

AMIN]]>Nov 13th 2009 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 13th 2009 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/Nov 14th 2009 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/13/palm-treo-650-boots-into-android-lives-a-fulfilling-life-video/
Going to try and get this going on my old Centro now. :)]]>Nov 14th 2009 4:31AM