http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/ Engadget Comments for Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo Wheel for Xbox 360 review http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtMGVX2Pl4]]>Nov 19th 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
No one points out that he was racing in the wet, I was hoping at the end after the nerdy guy (racing sure makes him angry lol) was being all giddy and glee that the race driver would turn round and say ok now we swap, you drive the real thing and I drive the sim.... which would have been far more entertaining and demonstrative.]]>Nov 19th 2009 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
Yea, thats true. ]]>Nov 19th 2009 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/great video, thanks for the post!]]>Nov 20th 2009 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 20th 2009 2:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Don't you meann "feet on it"? :P]]>Nov 19th 2009 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
if you play with your feet then your hands can't touch it...]]>Nov 19th 2009 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/lol gt5. forza series or bust. gt series is going downhill and is sucking.]]>Nov 19th 2009 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
I'm disappointed to hear about the feedback in Forza 3, but I would expect that Fanatec will find a way to rectify this, they have a lot of settings for the wheel available.

But really, the big story is why do I have to buy this wheel when I have a G25 already? You can use the same Logitech wheel you bought for GT3 on GT4, GT5 and the PC. With the 360 MS doesn't support anything except their 360 Wireless Racing wheel, which is pretty crummy, and this. They don't even support their own USB force feedback wheel they released before the 360. Stop boning us with your peripheral strategy (overpriced hard drives, wireless, etc.), MS.]]>Nov 19th 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
I wish the GT3RS wheel was compatible with the 360.]]>Nov 19th 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/According to Fanatec you can use the regular pedals, Clubsport pedals or even connect the G25 pedals to it (it even comes with the cable to do so).

I expect I'll be using my G25 pedals. These look lousy.]]>Nov 19th 2009 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
While the reviewer says MS doesn't provide a "serious wheel," it's no light weight. I've never been able to blame the wheel for my mistakes in Forza 3. However, while I'll take paddle shifters over a stick any day, the lack of a clutch is bothersome. (Especially because Forza 3 gives you the option!)

If MS were to improve their wheel with a smaller dead zone (current wheel doesn't have a large deadzone, but it's not perfect), add Philip's amBX (wind blowing through your hair... or at least on your arms), add a clutch to the foot pedals, and maybe add an LED rev meter to the wheel, I'd pay $250 for it.]]>Nov 19th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
Clutch support in Forza 3 is rather braindead. There's no support for straight-cut gears or sequential manual gearboxes. It just has what amounts to a street box (must clutch for all shifts) and computerized sequential (no clutch at all).

In a race car, you can upshift without the clutch, downshifting requires heel/toe and clutching. Forza 3 should have this mode. Good sims on the PC have it.

I completely agree MS offers no "serious wheel". You've used the Wireless Racing Wheel, surely you've noticed the clamping system doesn't properly hold the wheel to the table, so the force feedback can cause it to rise off the table unless you keep both hands on the wheel at all times.]]>Nov 19th 2009 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
I thought the MS wheel was pretty good too, till I used a proper wheel, then going back it just felt really limp, the wheel can only jerk you about it can really apply sustained force and the dead zone and rattle in the wheel is quite bad too, not to mention how noisy it is and the padal shifters on mine have started making pretty bad scratching noises inside. The pedals that come with it are really limp too, fine for playing bare foot I guess, but the brake pedal is so soft and limp making it harder to brake without locking the wheels up and making it completely impossible to play in shoes of course.

Still the MS wheel holds a special place in my heart, It's a good introductory wheel for sure, and sure it looks toy like but It's by far the most stylish wheels around, logitech juts look naff to me.]]>Nov 19th 2009 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/]]>Nov 19th 2009 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGmBHoygJA

Only if I could use the G27 on Xbox :(]]>Nov 19th 2009 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
Since I was a sucker and purchased the first iteration of the wheel I missed out on the Xbox 360 compatibility and am regretting it.

One of the "problems," other than the missing power switch, is that the stitching of the leather on the spokes can chaff the fingers. I seriously considered looking really geeky and buying driving gloves to use the wheel so I wouldn't get blisters.
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I don't think you were much of sucker for buying that, the xbox compatible one is only just shipping!

Plus there is only one game exclusive to the xbox (Forza) I have a feeling GT5 may (if it ever comes out) make up for that.

I think it now does have a power button, I could be wrong!

I highly doubt MS have made enough money from the MS Wheel to bother making a second one. The fact they allowed Fanatec to make this wheel compatible withxbox says they are unlikely to make one, even if the wheel is limited edition.

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Since I was a sucker and purchased the first iteration of the wheel I missed out on the Xbox 360 compatibility and am regretting it.

One of the "problems," other than the missing power switch, is that the stitching of the leather on the spokes can chaff the fingers. I seriously considered looking really geeky and buying driving gloves to use the wheel so I wouldn't get blisters.
]]>Nov 19th 2009 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
The wheel comes with a USB connector cable for PS3 and PC free, even with the Pure edition of the wheel.

Secondly this wheel is new, and has only just become available to use, though it has been available for pre-order, wheels have only just started shipping. It is however based on other wheels they make for PC and PS3 only but improvements have been made since.

The force feedback should not be an issue on this wheel which has some of the strongest if not strongest force feedback, I heard most people need to turn it down on the wheel itself.

No mention was given of the ability to change wheel settings from the wheel itself such as enabling the recently added Drift mode, and changing various sensitivity and forcefeedback options.

This wheel isn't just about the Porsche badge, and you really are not paying extra for the badge, you are paying mostly for the build quality and the force feedback motor which is belt driven not geared (making it quiet and smooth) which is substantially more expensive than the inferior dual motor and geared counterparts used by others to keep heat low. Those porsche style vents are not for show.

It's a limited edition wheel not aimed at your average consumer, so it's really isn't a targeted replacement for the Microsoft Wheel, it aimed at people who most likely already have a wheel and know they want a superior quality wheel that works on all platforms so they don't have to have multiple wheels laying around. Even though it's not aimed at average consumer the price is very reasonable considering what you get.

Is is very unlikely in my opinion anyone else will make a wheel for the xbox, as there are good technical and business reasons why they have not done so already and why It's not possible to make logitechs current wheels compatible ever, and indeed the only reason this wheel is on xbox and is fully supported in Forza right down to the clutch is down to the weight and persuasion of Porsche i've heard.

The standard pedals do look relatively cheap.. which is because they are relatively cheap. Which is why they offer pro club sport pedals which are the best you can buy and cost a small fortunate too.



]]>Nov 19th 2009 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
Very interesting response. I'm curious as to what are the Business and Technical concerns that are preventing other manufacturers such as Logitech from creating wheels for the Xbox 360.

I was very surprised when I never saw the amount of Accessories from third parties for the 360 that we see for the PS3.]]>Nov 19th 2009 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/I totally agree, if it doesn't work with Forza then It's a big BIG deal. Though from hearing from the very few people who actually have the final retail version of this wheel... I got the impression it worked fine and the force feedback if anything needed to be turned down from 100 on the wheel as it was to strong.

So my thoughts are that this was one of test wheels they sent out which has older software and has had some mechanical changes too since it went to shipping.

One way to tell maybe... does it have a drift mode in the wheels built in LED controls... I think it shows up as DFT or some short hand. The wheel has presets you cave save I think it justshows them as '1', '2' and so on on the LED screen. and the last preset is 'DRFT' or something.

If it's missing that, then it's definitely not the latest software/hardware. As they added that just before shipping.

Thanks]]>Nov 19th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Nov 19th 2009 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
Well no one outside of Logitech and MS can say for sure, so this is speculation on my part, but there are a few factors.

A. MS Certification for a wheel means going to microsoft bending over and showing them everything and agreeing to every demand. Logitech doesn't want to play ball.

B. MS don't like competition to the MS wheel so only allow Fanatec because of pressure from Porsche (I heard they sealed the deal) and they are limited edition (maybe even part of the deal)

C. Logitech wheels all use XID? style force feedback, I can't remember the name exactly, but it's a different way of communicating the forces and Microsoft uses a different method. So the wheels would at least need a big software update to understand that.

D. the PC wheel market is small as it is, the Wheel market for consoles is probably tiny tiny tiny, and Logitech simply have no interest in bending over to microsoft, writing new drivers and paying MS royalties for such a small market given the probably small margin of profit they make from the wheels as they are price so low anyway.

]]>Nov 19th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Hmm odd then, you made sure It's set to 100 FFB in the game and on the wheel, and maybe try setting the degree of rotation higher say even all the way to 900.

From everyone else's account the FFB in Forza has been superb even with the beta test wheels. The force shouldn't be as strong as in jerky arcade games like Dirt but it shouldn't be weak either.

My only guess is it's either broken!! (and hopefully fixed in software update) or maybe you were driving a particularly forgiving car or something :-) try one of the GT cars with all assists OFF it should rip your arms off if it's working ;-P

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After looking into it, you may be right! that the force feedback is weaker on the xbox/forza than anywhere else. I think that's just how forza is designed for some reason, try games like NFS Shift or Dirt perhaps.. though I know Shift doesn't have very good FFB settings at default on PC so I bet it's no better on console either sadly :-(

I'll try it for myself if I can get hold of a final wheel -_-

And then try and get the attention of Thomas at Fanatec to see if they can simply add a forcefeedback multiplier to the on wheel controls.

If it's an issue and it's weaker than it should be, I am sure they will work on something.

I notice that Forza is pretty weak on the standard MS Wheel compared with other games, though most other games just JERK the wheel, which is no substitute. Forza has always been more.. subtle and smooth, my bet is the force is weakened so it works properly and smooth on the inferior MS Wheel, but has not been optimized properly for the Fanatac wheel.
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However, Thomas e-mailed me to tell me that, indeed, these are pre-production wheels. Typically that's made very clear when setting up this sort of thing so I'm a bit frustrated only to be learning of it now. I don't believe the missing effects (ABS and drift mode) would impact the effect reproduction in Forza in the least, however, but an update has been added above for posterity -- plus a clarification that indeed it's not the wheel at fault here, it's the game.]]>Nov 19th 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
Ah cool, well not cool for you, but cool for everyone else ;-)

Yah I got the impression that even though the force feedback in Forza was weaker than other games, it wasn't so weak as to be a deal breaker.

They have had so many issues with this wheel small and large right unto the very end. I hope they have really ironed all the issue's out with the finals -_- and that they are truly durable! *fingers crossed*

I think the main difficulty has come in form of the stupid XID interface the xbox uses. Which basically means alll the logic vibrations and forces are computed inside wheel not the xbox. Which means a special chipset has to built and put in the wheel itself, freeing cpu cycles on the xbox at the expense of everything else. I mean Microsoft still haven't added full support (force feedback in rotation) to their OWNN wheel when running on the PC via there OWN adapter... I mean.... wow... It's not like Microsoft to cut corners to save money. It's amazing a company with such ingrained mentality to do things the easiest and cheapest way possible at detriment to everyone else even themselves.. is still alive. It shows in everything they have ever made with some exception where it was stuff they actually stole or bought/hostilely took over from others. :-)]]>Nov 19th 2009 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/
To clear up those of you saying you are paying for a brand, this is completely not true. This wheel is not expensive because of Porsche branding but rather xbox wireless controller and wheel licensing which adds up to nearly $100-150 of the price on each wheel.
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in full here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361746

even if Logitech were licensed to make a force feedback wheel for Xbox 360, there are significant technical limitations which prevent these wheels from functioning on on Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 features controller and force feedback architectures (XID, device-based force feedback playback) that are significantly different from the way our wheels work on PC, PS2, or PS3 (HID, host-based force feedback playback). It is not possible to enable Xbox 360 functionality with a software or firmware update.

Logitech understands that our customers wish to use our steering wheels on multiple gaming platforms. We have made significant efforts to ensure that our PC wheel drivers support our PS2 wheels, and our PS2 force feedback SDK supports our PC wheels. PS3 games that support Logitech force feedback also support the same list of wheels. At this point in time, these are the only three platforms with which it is possible to have a single force feedback wheel be compatible. Were it possible to effect a firmware or software change to enable Xbox 360 compatibility with our existing wheels, we would do so. Unfortunately, however, until Logitech is licensed by Microsoft to design and manufacture force feedback wheels, no Logitech force feedback wheels will function on Xbox 360."
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You are shilling for Fanatec.

"XID", or device-based feedback has been the standard for years and years. In fact, Immersion sued everyone to death over it for a decade now (surely you've see the results of that). Immersion used to give me (when I was in a another job) yearly presentations on their device-based force-feedback (which they consistently demoed using FF joysticks instead of wheels!).

HID doesn't support force-feedback, it is for input devices.

The reason you won't see other wheels is because MS makes a crapload of money overcharging for peripherals and they won't license anyone else to make them without getting a lot of money from them too. So unlike on PS2/PS3 where you can use a Momo wheel, which isn't even Sony-licensed, you can't use any device on the 360 that MS didn't license.

I have a friend who worked for Logitech when they were making a force-feedback wheel for MS. It was created and worked, but MS and Logitech couldn't reach a licensing agreement Logitech found to be acceptable.]]>Nov 19th 2009 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Uhm well that above comment is by Logitech or someone at logitech so uhm.. stuff yourself.

The way the xbox works means special chips and proprietary code needs to run in the wheel/device itself. It's expensive and troublesome to make and yes that combined with the expensive licensing and certification process make it undesirable... not to mention the tiny tiny market share and tiny margins on top of that.

To make a wheel compatible with all platforms it would have to be more expensive to subsidise the cost of licensing and dev and the extra internal chips... and then it couldn't equally compete with wheels for all platforms.. unless it was say... especially high end... like the Fanatec wheel aimed at a niche.

Obviously IT CAN be done, as you have this Fanatec wheel... duh

The reason you won't see it again is because it cost them so much money it's only really feasible for very high end niche of a niche product.]]>Nov 20th 2009 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-for-xbox-360-review/Dec 1st 2009 5:03PM