http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/ Engadget Comments for YouTube pulls a Hulu -- yanking API access from Popcorn Hour (Update: Google responds) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
"Do no evil" as long as the evil is directed outward I guess that phrase doesn't apply.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
it's funny, these content providers just KEEP shooting themselves in the foot. Awesome. Hey, by the way, maybe they should take a note from the music industry's demise.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
Google is most certainly a content provider. I just can't wait to see if the pull a stunt like this with all the books they have gathered rights to distribute.]]>Nov 20th 2009 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
If these companies think Internet streaming to your TV is so important... I don't want half a dozen boxes hooked to my TV.

Oh well... laptop ---> 46" LCD still works....]]>Nov 20th 2009 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
Youtube is pulling an Apple.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
True with all the copyright issues it's not as fun as it use to be. It's sad when you can't post a video you made on a site because the song you decided to us is copyrighted by Viacom... =P]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
Well, copyright issues - The fact that Viacom or anyone else for that matter holds the rights on certain music is ok by me. No offense to your video - it might be brilliant as I have not seen it - but if someone makes a piece of music, they should have the right to say what it is attached to.

As someone who works in media, I constantly have to get releases for images, video, audio, actors, blah, blah. Total pain. Yet at the same time I don't want my finished work given away to anyone either without obtaining a release from me too.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/I fully agree with you. My dream is to have a small fast computer hooked up to an HDTV. I can't wait to have an HDTV and some spare cash for the computer.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
Uh, how will they know?

I'm planning to pick up an ASRock Ion 330HT, and load Windows 7 on the thing. From a display standpoint, they won't be able to tell if it's hooked up to a 22" monitor, or my 52" LCD TV.]]>Nov 20th 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil

Apparently that is more of a guide, than a rule. This is why I don't trust Google. Wolf in sheep's clothing. "No, we're the good tech company, not like the other evil ones!"]]>Nov 20th 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Probably has a lot to to with advertising revenue. Youtube has never been a very profitable venture. If the API isn't advertisement friendly aside from the annoying in bottom of window ads that pop up on the regular interfaces, it may simply boil down to money. I don't recall seeing adds on Youtube streams on the iPhone. I have never used a Popcorn device so I can't speak for the presence or lack of ads on those devices. However, if devices that could bypass the majority of the ads that Google makes money got too popular and affected the revenue stream or increased costs by going the API route then Google would be forced to respond. I'm not saying its right, I'm not saying it a good PR move, but it's a business decision and Google is going to have to deal with the fallout.]]>Nov 20th 2009 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/It may be that cutting a seven figure check to keep popcorn working the way it is isn't in their business model.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
If all else fails use the browser. I don't think that uses any API.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
That being said, given how cozy Google and Apple have been, I'd be surprised if they pulled it from Apple TV. I just hope they don't pull support from Boxee.

From an ethical standpoint though, YouTube shouldn't be doing this at all, given how it's dependent on user-generated content. I'd say "lets organize a boycott", but boycotts only work against imaginary French magazines.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/They'll only yanking support for external apps that access youtube.
When viewing youtube on your wii your using the internet channel, which is perfectly fine and will not be blocked.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
I'm not defending google but this reminds me allot of what has happend with Netflix.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
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The new Hulu-ish Terms of Service (section II, item 10) restricts API clients from the ability to "use the YouTube API in connection with any API Client created for use on television set top boxes, television game consoles, or video screens packaged and marketed as television sets;"

Is your HTPC connected to a TV? If so it ain't legal and I suspect it won't be long before a piece of youtube software checks what your "viewing screen" is.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
I think you are correct. The TV does not matter, unless the TV itself is pulling in youtube using the API. Otherwise it is just a monitor. And besides, I will soon be moving to a front projector without a tuner in it, so that does not count as a TV. So I can thumb my nose at google/youtube and say "Oh, you think my screen is too big. HAHAHA, I'm going to make it even BIGGER to get around you silly rule."

(Why do my comments now show up as 'unverified' even though I am logged in?)]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
Log out and log back in. It should ask you to give a username. Go to the Engadget update story.]]>Nov 20th 2009 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/It costs them a fortune to run youtube, other companies are trying to leach of them. Why is it evil of google to try and get their expenses covered by the people using their service?]]>Nov 27th 2009 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
I said they are 'less likable'. Not sure how you got from that to 'evil'.]]>Nov 27th 2009 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/There's gotta be a strategy behind it. By choosing its partners it gains another revenue stream.]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
But it costs money to run the servers to store the content. They are supported by advertisements.

If you watch the youtube content on your TV without seeing the ads, then Youtube won't get paid by the advertisers. Which means they will have to shut down.

When you watch TV, the content is paid for by the annoying advertisements that parade across the screen for 25 minutes out of every hour. Youtube content on your TV will have to be formatted to allow for the same sort of annoying revenue generators. ]]>Nov 20th 2009 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 22nd 2009 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/Nov 20th 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/20/youtube-pulls-a-hulu-yanking-api-access-from-popcorn-hour-ot/
That's a real bummer for people who just ponied up for a Popcorn Hour. ]]>Nov 20th 2009 12:20PM