http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/ Engadget Comments for The end of exclusivity leading to big iPhone sales in Europe http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
up here in canada, we saw so many big sales when rogers lost exclusivity.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 3:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/I mean... i guess ATT must have made a killer deal with apple to get the rights to the phone.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
Let me ask you this: If the iPhone was on Verizon, do you think that Motorola would have still released the Droid without built in multitouch?]]>Nov 23rd 2009 4:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
Silly question but how do you know this is true? I certainly agree that there are people who would buy the iPhone but do not want to switch carrier but these potential sales have to be balanced against the money that AT&T is paying Apple for exclusivity. I am not defending this practice but I see comments like this much like the ones that claim Apple would make so much more money if they licensed OS X for other hardware. Typically these comments are flawed in their logic and, honestly, I think Apple knows their own business better than we do.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 4:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 25th 2009 7:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/

Sadly though, in the US, the iPhone would only get to run on T-Mobile and AT&T. Unless, of course, a CDMA chipset ends up in the next gen iPhone. We'll see I guess.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
I don't know if LTE is backwards compatible with CDMA but I am guessing no.

Apple's cycle for iPhones is June/July each year, and I don't expect them to roll out an LTE phone this year. Even if they did,, with the presumed incompatibility with CDMA, the iPhone would only work in certain markets, and fully by 2013. I don't see Apple wanting users to have a bad experience because of a network issue.

So, I come back to Apple needing to have a CDMA chip in the iPhone to get it compatible if it is going to have a reasonably servicable phone on the verizon network over the next 3 years.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 2:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
Remember the switch from analog to digital? That went on for many years before they finally switched off the analog portion of the towers... giving people enough time to finish their contracts, get new phones, etc.

If Verizon got a CDMA iPhone in 2010 or 2011, that's still plenty of time until LTE takes over in ~2013.

But, if it was 2012 and we were still having this conversation... then yes, it would be too late. But we've still got some time now.

@pika2000 >> "Why bother with CDMA when everybody, including Verizon, is going LTE?"

Well, the Droid and every other new phone that Verizon has right now is CDMA... was that a silly thing to do? I mean, Verizon knows they will be using LTE in the future... so why bother with CDMA today, right?

Apple would have to make a CDMA iPhone, sure. But guess what... ALL phone manufacturers make both GSM and CDMA devices. It's not that hard to do.

Will they? That's the question. But if Samsung, RIM, LG, HTC, and Motorola ave the knowledge to make both GSM and CDMA models... I'm pretty sure Apple could figure out how.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 4:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/As much as you want Verizon to have it, they don't have a GSM network and I doubt Apple is going to alter their phone just for one company. Now if all our mobile networks were GSM, we would definitely have some good competition going.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 2:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 2:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
I would love to see the iPhone available on multiple carriers in the US but it would suck if it lead to prices going up significantly.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 2:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
Verizon wasn't willing to subsidize the iPhone and pay Apple upfront what AT&T offered, and I seriously doubt T-Mobile USA would have the cash to follow suit either.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
That's pretty racist. It's not because Chinese 'culture' is against buying the real thing. It's because only a few decades ago the Chinese people were incredibly poor. By international standards, most Chinese still are. You would buy Bolex too if your grandparents almost starved to death during the 'Great Leap Forward'. In the 19th century, Charles Dickens hated America because we stole his copyrighted works. We were still a developing country, and we couldn't afford the 'real thing'. So be careful about saying, "That's the Chinese mentality. All their fakes will fall apart before their time, but that's how it is." A few decades from now, your car will likely be Chinese. I hope an "Average White Boy" can understand that some day.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Verizon uses "CDMA", a dying technology.
It's up to Verizon to upgrade to "GSM" like a lot of carriers around the world.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 12:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
Oh wait... they are. LTE is a GSM standard.]]>Nov 23rd 2009 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/
Upgrade to gsm.... LTE is next, gsm is crap]]>Nov 23rd 2009 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 12:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-end-of-exclusivity-leading-to-big-iphone-sales-in-europe/Nov 23rd 2009 1:00AM