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NoLoss?! Easy, you just alter the particles' pentium physics and bounce it off the theory of relativity using a cross dimensional time-machine from the future. Squared.
$1 Million please...]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/companion cube = priceless]]>Nov 25th 2009 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
Unicorn blood and the tears of little children.]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
If you're dumb enough to buy this product, your thick head probably serves as much of an acoustic barrier as this hunk of plastic.]]>Nov 25th 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Some "rich" people work hard for their money...]]>Nov 25th 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
I know that, I was referring specifically to the ones who don't, not all rich people in general.]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/I think people just don't like your avatar]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
I see your fugly avatar followed you to the new engadget.]]>Nov 26th 2009 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
The PS3 does not run on gimmicks.]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Playstation Eye and Bluray beg to differ.]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Oh, and Home. Don't forget Playstation Home.
Oh, and tilt-control Sixaxis.
Oh, and their upcoming 'dildo' motion controllers.]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Have you even heard B&O speakers? Their speaker and amp line is far different from the flatpanel TV's they "make".]]>Nov 25th 2009 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
1. Buy this for $959.
2. Have "Self-Denial" kick in after wondering if you should have spent that money on this.
3. Say to self: I paid so much for this, it must be working!
4. Say to self: Yeah, I hear the difference. (even though there may not be)
5. Grab confirmation from others.
]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/6: ???
7: Profit!]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
"The "beam of light from a flashlight" analogy is easy to grasp, but the truth is that the opposite is happening. The Blackbody is more akin to an "anti-matter projector""]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp

(Also known as Ethernet or RJ-45)]]>Nov 25th 2009 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
Didn't you know, digital signals can be deformed by cruddy cables...especially over such great distances as 1.5 metres!

ha!]]>Nov 25th 2009 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
http://www.lessloss.com/high-performance-power-cables-c-65.html]]>Nov 25th 2009 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
What the? Those that think this kind of stuff is high-end, don't understand high-end audio. It is better to call this segment "Pricey Audio." Those that know names like Naim, REL, Linn, and Proac come from over the pond, and names like Audio Research, Avalon, LAMM, and McIntosh come from the USA, truely know high-end audio. As such, true high-end is all about the music and not about the marketing. If you think Bose is high-end audio, then you really don't understand much about the subject. Just because a component costs over $750, does not make it high-end in terms of what audiophiles understand.

Please spend some time in a true high-end audio store. A store that carries at least a few of the brands named above, and then read The Absolute Sound for a year or so before making comments about high-end audio please. Otherwise you run the risk of having a segment of your audience that will view your reviews as silly.]]>Nov 25th 2009 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
Agreed. I've always thought Engadget's reviews of audio equipment were rather lame, imho.]]>Nov 25th 2009 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
Seems like the marketing is working!

But I agree with the sentiment.
]]>Nov 25th 2009 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/True, to a degree. BUT anyone who has hung out in the "high-end" audio world knows that there is no shortage of snake oil there also. Monster Cables comes immediately to mind. Throw in some specially "tuned" wooden blocks for under you CD player, cones for vibration damping you amp and Teflon sleeves for power cords, all at breathtaking prices and you have high-end nirvana. ]]>Nov 25th 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
There are laws of diminishing returns for sure. I purchased a pair of the Proac D15 speakers for about $2,000 several years ago, then three years later upgraded to the Proac D28 speakers for about $4,000. This is not even really high-end territory yet either. But I can say that for double the money the speakers were not twice as good. They were better, and worth it to me, but I can see how some will call that snake oil. Some high-end equipment companies like Rega Research don't recommend spending a ton of money on speaker wires. However Rega does make a $9,000 CD Player too. More snake oil?

My point is there are a lot of very fine people like Bob Carver, Gordon Gow, Roy Gandy, and many more who are solid engineers and music lovers. They don't sell snake oil but believe deeply in making music as lifelike as possible in your own living room. They care nothing at all about marketing. Their equipment is the antithesis of marketing to the masses. To have an opening sentence in this story that uses absolute words like "always" in referring to high-end and it being about marketing short changes these people's fine work and sells even shorter those readers who may now have a badly skewed view of what high-end really means, it had nothing to do with the mass market which LessLoss, Bose, and B&O are about. Mass market is fine for some, but it should never be confused with high-end.]]>Nov 26th 2009 1:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
Then one of the highly regarded small manufacturers fessed up and made a U-turn, dropping their conventional products and now producing an integrated fully active system for small change in high-end standards. It made my lovely system sound woolly and dull but luckily, looking at forums, 95 % of audiophiles live in denial and I sold it for good money and bought loads of good music for the change. For 2 years now, I've enjoyed music, without giving a thought to the sound of the system as there is none.]]>Nov 26th 2009 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
There is no point buying hi-fi/hi-end audio if you can't hear the difference.

And in general: there is no point in buying something what makes little to nothing difference to you.

I new in past some rich folks who were buying hi-fi/hi-end solely because having something cheap at home was out of question. It is quite stupid hearing $25K system playing some silly pop, which fails even at plain stereo.

P.S. Btw, $2000-4000 loudspeakers are still in hi-fi territory. It's not a high-end. High-end is generally a something made to reach some design higher end: proper/rare materials, proper (hand) assembly, properly tuned and tested. Most of the crap like B&O or Bose isn't even close to high-end... First time I heard B&O I couldn't even believe that it costs that much: my home hi-fi costing a fraction of its price was delivering better sound. If only Mark Levinson and Revel Ultima were more affordable...]]>Nov 26th 2009 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
I hope you'd at least agree with the premiss that true high end is not about marketing. Some of the high-end manufacturers never even take out an ad. They sell their products by word of mouth only.

We are not quite alike. I have a Rega Planar 2. It is a turntable for those of you who don't know. I've bought it over 25 years ago. I upgraded it to a RB300 arm, changed to an upgraded motor, and it now holds an Exact cartridge. All told it is still a turntable with upgrades for about a grand. I'm so glad vinyl records are making a comeback. They are so much better than a CD when played with the right equipment. While I tweak a little, when I have something that I'm happy with I stick with it. Most of my equipment has been with me for many years. I bi-amped my speakers using one amp to feed the tweeters and the other to feed the woofers. That improvement in sound cost of an extra $400 amp (used), and was the best improvement in sound for the money I ever did. I haven't change it since. In the past 25 years I've tweaked the basic system about six times. I am now very pleased.

I'd call my self more a very fortunate music lover rather than being part of a special group of elitist. It is not the impression that works for me. Although I'll agree that at some point near the higher end of high end the cost does make it a rich man's hobby.

To repeat the quote that got this thread going:
"The high-end audio market has always been more about marketing than about music,"
My only point to begin with is that nothing could be further from the truth.

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Warning: Unresponsive Script -> Stop Script]]>Nov 25th 2009 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
I've had the same experience as you have under all the above conditions.]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/
"stupid is as stupid does" I believe

"stupid is as stupid buys" would've made more sense

stupid.]]>Nov 25th 2009 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/lessloss-blackbody-improve-your-sound-for-just-959-and-your-se/Nov 25th 2009 5:25PM