http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/ Engadget Comments for Palm and Sprint issue statement acknowledging Profile backup issue http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/I've been shying away from "The Cloud" because I simply don't trust these companies to guard my data exclusively. Either because of negligence, cost-cutting, or both, they keep shooting themselves in the foot. Unfortunately, when they do that there are innocent bystanders.

I've have over a dozen years worth of data on my device, and I haven't lost a bit because I regularly sync my data to my PC, and back up the PC (including an off-site backup).

Now, if someone combines the cloud with my desktop(s), so that I have a multi-node distributed cache, then I'll start to get interested. I want a) a copy on my desk for safe-keeping, b) a copy on my portable device that are usable when it's disconnected from the infrastructure, and c) multiple copies in the distributed service for access anywhere.

I'm calling this "The Fog", as it's a little bit more down to earth.
]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
I am with you. I don't trust the cloud either for the same reasons as you.]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Something like .Mac (or numbers of free services, as someone will point out)?
Copies are kept locally on my computers, when syncing (and overwriting ton of local data, as would happen if there was a problem), message pops up warning me if I want to change more than x% of local data ...

I have no problem with cloud backup, but I would not feel comfortable if cloud was the only place for my data...]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/LMAO, "The Fog," I LOVE it. Please get that trademarked ASAP, and become a patent troll. I'll let sue anyone you want because you bring valid points.]]>Nov 25th 2009 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
The Fog. You know, that's a pretty good idea.

I hope it happens...

;-), ]]>Nov 26th 2009 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
I have full faith in cloud storage and cloud computing, but companies like Palm and Microsoft keep making people lose trust. Bunch of amateurs, I say.]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
thats a great idea.]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.precentral.net/how-back-your-palm-profile-information]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/I back up my Palm Pre to one of my Unix computers which is running rsyncd. The setup is not difficult if you are a Unix user already. My "rsyncd.conf" on the Unix side only contains:

pid file = /var/run/rsyncd.pid
uid = root
gid = wheel
use chroot = yes
hosts allow = 10.0.0.188 10.0.0.199
hosts deny = *
[palm_pre]
read only = no
path = /usr/green/palm_pre

Naturally, I also have a firewall rule allowing rsyncd only on my internal network. On the Palm Pre, I have a small shell script, "backup.sh", that I run from the Terminal application installed via Preware:

#!/bin/sh
rsync -HrlptgoDPvvS --force --delete --del --stats --exclude=/sys --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev / rsync:/root@10.0.0.1/palm_pre/

I will refrain from putting a walkthrough of enabling developer mode and installing homebrew applications like Preware and/or Terminal.]]>Nov 25th 2009 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
You can manually back much of your data, most importantly your contact,s via WebOS Quick Install. ]]>Nov 25th 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
I have try to upload it again several times. Nothing. Is there an image size requirement or something?]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
my Pre has been one of the most trouble free phones I have EVER had. And i have dealt with a lot fo phones.

Android doesn't have the polish though i have thoroughly played with his android phone (G1) and consider it pretty top notch, it still has a little growing to do.]]>Nov 25th 2009 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
This conversation seems to have gone in the Microsoft sucks, Palm sucks, Android sucks, Apple sucks direction of most Engadget discussions. Bottom line... they all suck, but the biggest sucker of all is the Cloud. The Cloud really sucks... Business users of phones, computers etc spend countless hours (including my entire day today and I'm a salesperson not an IT guy) backing up data, as many times on as many drives in as many places as possible. Data, not the coolest slickest GoogMacinPrePhone is the most valuable thing out there. Worth a lot more than the carrier subsidized ten dollar phone that will be obsolete tomorrow. Remember the Motorola StarTAC? Great phone, still have my contact list from it, but you don't still see me using it! So quit bitching about who lost what Sidekick data, backup your phone as many ways as possible and try to tell companies the Cloud is not the answer because then someone else owns my data... Looking especially at you Google]]>Nov 25th 2009 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/Nov 25th 2009 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/ 
give us choices dang it and stop following apple's communistic ways of doing business...there are reasons why not everyone has an islab.]]>Nov 25th 2009 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
wow, that would be a really intelligent communist reference were it not for the fact that Apple's... er... the most successful company with the most successful mobile platform, far and away, in this market.

So, you're advice, to the fledgling Palm + Sprint combo is to not be like Apple, who's printing money? Brilliant. You know if it wasn't for the iPhone, no Palm Pre would exist? You can bet Palm is going to copy Apple at every single turn. Whether they're allowed to do that, legally, is another matter.

I know I know, it was meant to be another childish reference to Apple's supposed "my way or the highway" App store policies, but you're really grasping at straws there.

And by the way, you might think 'not everyone has an iDevice' but the truth is, every smartphone released since mid-2007 for all intents and purposes either is an iDevice or tries to be one. The iPhone killers and their ilk? Wake up. It's Steve Jobs' world. You're just living in it.]]>Nov 26th 2009 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/palm-and-sprint-issue-statement-acknowledging-profile-backup-iss/
everyone copies the best and the iphone has currently the best UI according to the majority of people's opinion but in my opinion they need a physical keyboard and go to an affordable network like sprint that gives you good service for the money or go to the best for the money (Verizon)....ATT charges alot for service that is below sprint.

my childish reference has nothing to do with the app store...steve jobs has always thought like a communist....in the 80's one of there first computers barely had keys on the keyboard, no arrows......they refuse to put 2 buttons on the computer mouses even though it obviously needs it.....i could go on all here

please remove steve jobs balls from your forehead and you may live in steve jobs world but i do not....i do agree that unfortunatly even palm has copied the bad things from the iphone (no access to file system on the phone, mediocre copy and paste=no copy and paste for 2 years, etc....)...also steve jobs world on the ipod and the rental ipod but the rest of the business (computers) jobs world has a population of 10 people...excuse me...10%

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