http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/ Engadget Comments for Pandora cases start arriving, production enters 'so close you can smell it' stage http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/I'm sorry you feel that way]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/once claimed to have mac o on a sega genesis/32x setup.
Totally impossible for a number of reasons.

In any case, they're gonna get their money, and everyone who gave it to them will be too ashamed to press charges.]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/who the hell is eviltradon]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Check the read link, there's practically the whole thing spread out over about 5 or 6 photos. It's not assembled yet, but all the pieces are there.]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://pandorapress.net/2009/11/25/testing-testing-123/

There are photos of more parts (which the factory people took at the factory and sent to CraigIX).]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/We were just discussing this on the forum. This is the second or third time when the OP team have released a sneak peak which was caught by Engadget, only to release a much better update a few days later which was not. It'd be nice if whomever keeps leaking these updates to "the press" would just wait a couple days for Craig et al to bust out the good stuff. :D]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
I don't know. After all this hype for how many years, this thing has just got to be extremely disappointing...]]>Nov 26th 2009 6:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/the joke is actually "two months", but thanks for trying]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
Every time I see an update, the first thing that catches my eye is how cheap it looks, especially when you take into account the retail price on these babies.

Still, they look like they're finally getting there, so hopefully we'll see an actual finished unit soon.]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Shiny is expensive. The prototype cases were done using Fused Deposition Modeling, a sort of prototyping technique that uses plastic filaments, and the pictures in the link don't have the final finish on them yet.]]>Nov 25th 2009 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/What up, Tom.]]>Nov 26th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Still fake?]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/It's a scam.]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Depends on your definition of "downgrade". The benefit of capacitive is that it allows multi-touch, true. On the other hand, resistive allows for better accuracy, and can be triggered by anything solid, not just something conductive. A resistive screen also has different levels of pressure sensitivity, whereas a capacitive screen does not (I think).
So to summarize, there are pros and cons to both, and it's not a fair statement to say that one is strictly better than the other.
Because we know that multi-touch resistive screens are better than both :P (too bad they didn't exist 2 years ago)]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/And the 3GS has no gaming controls.]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 26th 2009 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Kind of like a $169 PSP?

I mean, the PSP will run pretty much any emulator the Pandora will (at first, anyway), and it's got the benefit of costing less, having a large supply that is readily available if you need a replacement or repair, and having a ton of third-party accessories at every game store on earth.

The WiZ will run most of the emulators a Pandora will, and costs $179, with a gorgeous OLED touch screen and smaller size.

I really don't see the value in the Pandora over what's already available. Even a Dingoo is a better value in the end; Low price ($80), most of the same emulators, much smaller and more compact, more people in the community who can get one and thus more people developing for it...

Pandora has a lot to prove before I'll consider it worth $330 of my cash.]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/I think you're missing the point. Yes, PSP can run all the emulators you want. Yes, PSP has a crapload of accessories. Yes, the Wiz is cheaper and runs a lot of emulators. Yes, Dingoo costs $80. Yes, Pandora is $330.

But Pandora's pretty much built by the community, for the community, with community money and community support. It runs the emulators all the others do at full speed or better. It's an open platform so you can tweak it to your heart's content without worrying about the next firmware update.

I have two PSPs with CFW. One has 3.80 M33-5. The other has 5.00 M33-6. I can't play the newest commercial games on it without resorting to pirated/hacked ISOs, else I'll lose my ability to play those emulators you speak so much about. Sure, you can argue that the PSP hacking community will eventually work around that problem, but DarkAlex hasn't been putting out any new CFWs since 5.00 (I think), and it's starting to look like the hackers are falling behind in terms of keeping up with Sony.

Pandora's expensive, there's no away around that. But it's a niche machine for gadget and emulation lovers. I preordered a Pandora after I saw the Odroid and couldn't stand the button arrangement. I'm tired of missing out on the newest games because I'm afraid to lose my homebrew abilities on my PSP. I'll consider myself lucky to own a Pandora, and I'm sure almost everyone else who ordered one feels the same.]]>Nov 26th 2009 1:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 26th 2009 2:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
As a little computer the Pandora has potential, but again, it's an unsupported homemade device that won't have anything in terms of parts availability. Give it a little time, and the guys involved will start overcharging for simple things like replacement buttons, before abandoning it and moving on to another project. I'd much rather grab an ASUS if I want a portable computer; I know they'll come through if I need anything for it. ]]>Nov 26th 2009 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/it's the economy of scales. they only have 4000 cases and a few 100 boards so definitely it will be hard even to break even and make some profit]]>Nov 26th 2009 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)

community blog for news on stuff on the forums, as well as community projects:

http://pandorapress.net/]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
I guess you haven't followed Engadget religiously enough then. They've covered it a few times.

If you want to know more the easiest place to get info is http://PandoraPress.net]]>Nov 25th 2009 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 25th 2009 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
i would love to get a Pandora play all of my ROMs for Dreamcast, N64, Mame,SNES, NES, PlayStation and Sega.

i all ready have a corsair voyager 128gb waiting. ]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
I love my WiZ, and it plays just about everything from Atari 2600 through PSOne, but it was only $179 and has an OLED screen and actual support from a large corporation.

By my math, the ability to play N64, and maybe GameCube or PS2, isn't worth an extra $151 quite yet. The OS features are nice, though I don't see the point when other devices do those things, too.

I could mod my PSP for less than $15 and it would handle N64 and everything before that. The PSP itself only cost me $120 used.]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/I don't think the PSP runs any N64 games at full speed. Super Mario 64 outside the castle, maybe.]]>Nov 26th 2009 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
Oh, I'm certainly interested in Pandora, but I'm not going to hold my breath for it. I'll believe it's real when I see it available to order with the promise that the product will arrive within three weeks.

And they've still not really covered things like warranty issues, dealing with defects, where to get it repaired, the lack of accessories, and getting the price to a reasonable level.

For the price of a Pandora, you can get a PS3 and a game. It's kind of pricey for an emulator platform, which is what most people will use it for.

I just have a feeling that the whole project will be deemed too overwhelming for the developers once they start getting crap-tons of support request emails and forum complaints when buttons break, screens crack, pixels burn out, and all the things that would be sussed out with proper QA come up from their first crowd of Alpha testers/customers. ]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
Anyway, I'll let you get back to enjoying Quake 3 on your Wiz.]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/A game! Wow! One game.]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/Nov 26th 2009 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/
Dude. Quake 3 is no more interesting than Quake 1 or 2. . . But if you'll pay $330 just to play an old FPS away from your laptop, then more power to you, I guess.

If I want to play a crappy FPS like Quake, the WiZ can do that. And if I want something more "modern", I can jump to the PSP.

But I don't get these consoles to play yet another FPS. I get enough of that repetitive garbage on the PC and home consoles. I certainly wouldn't consider the price of Pandora and the risk that the guys involved won't just cancel the project and go home worth it to play Quake III.

I'm certainly interested in Pandora, but I'm no sucker. I'll let guys like you test everything first. You enter the cave first and find out if the air is poisonous. You alpha test the Pandora and find all the bugs. You deal with a defective device and tell me how long it took for them to get you a new one or a replacement part. My hat's off to you, because while I may be a gadget guy, I'm not brave enough to throw $330 at something that has been "coming" for three years now, which hasn't seen a proper QA testing, and which may end up being a total disappointment once it does arrive... IF it ever arrives.

I bet you invested in the Phantom, too, didn't you?

Your bravery is noted.
]]>Nov 26th 2009 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/25/pandora-cases-start-arriving-production-enters-so-close-you-ca/the Pandora and a PS3 are two different things. This isn't just for games, it can run ARM OSes like ChromeOS for example with some work.
and unlike the GP2X it doesn't have underpowered hardware or the restricts that Gamepark puts, this thing is made by the developers who were unhappy with the GP2X. Just to compare hardware, I think they are still charging like $180 for the Wiz which has an ARM9 and no GPU and a QVGA screen. Pandora is more expensive yes, but it a Cortex A8 CPU, PowerVR SGX GPU, WVGA screen, a query keyboard, and full developer openness]]>Nov 26th 2009 12:33AM