Dell SX2210T vs. HP L2105tm: optical multitouch head-to-head review
Dell and HP, HP and Dell. The United States' two biggest computer hardware manufacturers, and two of the world's top three, have tended to match each other step for step, so it's no surprise that Dell's recently released SX2210T was quickly followed by a Compaq L2105tm from its closest rival. Measuring 21.5 inches each, with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 1,000:1 contrast ratio, and optical multitouch technology under their chunky bezels, these two models represent the biggest mainstream push for touchscreen computing yet. Functionally identical to standard monitors, they offer the added benefit of letting you input your heart's urges and desires using swipes, gestures and flicks, and we've plucked one of each panel to see how this all plays out for ourselves. Join us after the break, won't you?
Since the two monitors use the exact same optical multitouch technology, what we hope to achieve here will be somewhat unorthodox. On the one hand, we'll use both to try and determine whether multitouch is worth it, and on the other, we'll pit them against each other in order to find out whose execution of the hardware around the multitouch interface is better. We've broken things down for you by category, assigning a winner for each, though quite naturally you can always hurry along to the wrap-up where we'll dish our opinion on the all-important and heavily pressing questions set out above. So let's dive in already.
Multitouch
So, the headline feature. The sinker or swimmer, the riser or faller, the coup de grace or the graceless cretin. The optical part of this multitouch display explains the way it functions -- a CMOS sensor, or tiny camera to the rest of us, is located in each of the top corners of the monitor panel, and the user's attempts at interfacing through touch are merely the two-dimensional mapping of his finger(s) in the space immediately in front of the screen. The good thing about this is that you don't have to touch the screen itself to get it to register your finger inputs, the bad thing about it is that you get no feedback or response when, inevitably, you do touch the screen. Additionally, you're pretty much forbidden from hovering over icons with your finger, because if it strays too close, the cameras might pick it up and register a click where you did not intend one.
We found the on-screen keyboard provided by Microsoft's Windows 7 easy and responsive in use, and so long as we never strayed into any sophisticated mousing techniques, our desktop and browser navigation also flowed with few hitches. In fact, we consider the one-finger scrolling of webpages to be the one genuinely useful everyday feature that we really would love to have on all our machines. On the other hand, integrating the touch technology into the bezel means that it protrudes an extra centimeter or two ahead of the display itself, making it pretty tough to position your finger over things like the Close button on maximized windows or the miniscule tab that will bring up the keyboard. This is to some extent ameliorated by HP's inclusion of a stylus (with a slot for it built into the monitor's body), but we'd rather see the OS take care of these issues.
Overall, this force-field approach to gathering input data is unintuitive to use, but with some acclimation time you can make it work. The major issue for us is that when a person, particularly a modern touchscreen smartphone-bred one, sees a big screen that invites "touch," his mental acuities are focused on physical contact and it's irksome to have so much touching going on with so little direct feedback.
What we can conclude is that the stalwart keyboard and mouse aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Multitouch, whether on laptops or desktops, remains a pale shadow of its input elders, particularly when compared in terms of responsiveness, ease and logicality of use, and celerity of feedback. Which is not to say it doesn't have a role to play in the future of personal computers. While we cannot see it replacing the traditional tools of the trade, we can certainly envisage scenarios where a touchscreen would complement them rather nicely. There's no law that says you have to use either a monitor's touchscreen capacities or the old school combo, and we'd say having the full set of options is no bad thing. Another positive, if digressive, conclusion to draw from our time is that yes, a netbook (Lenovo S10-2) can drive a 1920 x 1080 resolution pretty nicely, and even power through multitouch zooming, so long as it's used with patience and understanding.
Unboxing and setup
HP wins this one by default. The first Dell display we received suffered from a stuck red pixel, lamentably located slap bang in the middle of the screen, while the second seemed to have issues with the webcam, which we couldn't activate. We'll put those problems down to just getting flawed review units, and doubt similar unpleasantness will be encountered in the retail packages. Speaking of which, both companies ensconce their hardware with a reassuring excess of soft foam, and both provide the necessary cables for a quick and painless installation. Whether you'll have one, on the other hand, is a separate issue. We couldn't get the touchscreen functionality running on our desktop Windows 7 computer regardless of what we tried, whereas our humble netbook loaded with the same OS recognized the Dell's added capabilities after we installed the Next Window drivers for it. Since the HP model uses the same optical technology, it was no surprise that we didn't need to perform any extra steps when we plugged it in. Notably though, the HP's default brightness and contrast settings were both way too high and some adjustments were required on that front, whereas the Dell was pumping out a great picture straight out of the box. We still give both monitors high marks for a straightforward and manual-free setup, though the mystery of why our desktop wouldn't play nice with either of them remains. One additional note of import is that you'll need a spare powered USB port on your computer for the touch input data to flow into.
Style
You'd be lying to yourself if you said you didn't care about how a monitor looks. Frankly, with so much convergence around similar standards and resolutions, the one true distinguishing factor between monitors nowadays is exactly how they look. In terms of design and appearance, the Dell wins in a landslide. We particularly like the tapering transition on the side of the monitor between its dark front and creamy white back panel -- its sumptuous curvature makes the whole monitor seems slimmer than it really is, and grants it the sort of elegance that gets people commenting with approval. We should know, the few outsiders passing through the Engadget mansion noted the Dell's pretty exterior without fail. HP, on the other hand, appears somewhat confused about what it wants to achieve. The angular straight lines and bulky swiveling stand make allusions toward the serious, buttoned-up, and professional user, which are all but destroyed by the extra-glossy display. We still don't know what focus group decided that the consumer end of the market prefers its electronics in super-shiny glossy flavor, but there's certainly a clash of styles on the HP which even in the absence of the prettier Dell would be somewhat jarring and unappealing.
Usability
Draw. The Dell's on-screen configuration menu is controlled by four side-mounted buttons which are helpfully accompanied by explicatory icons alongside each one so that you never have to wonder or guess what each button press will do. The HP moves these keys to the middle of the panel, which we found harder to access, although we appreciate that such a design is ambidextrous whereas Dell's is only convenient for right-handers. HP's big advantage on paper is in its stand, which swivels left and right, and also seems to have a greater vertical tilt range than Dell's. The benefit of this is debatable though, as in order to turn the monitor laterally, you have to hold the base down with your other hand, which essentially requires just as much effort as rotating the base itself. HP also throws in a set of speakers on its panel, which we found clear, but also pretty quiet even on their maximum setting. Certainly nothing to rely on in the long term, but a helpful extra if you're in a pinch. Dell's retaliation is in the form of a plenty useful webcam with stereo microphones around it, and an integrated USB hub.
Construction
A clear win for Dell. HP's monitor is clad in thick matte plastic throughout, and unfortunately feels like it. Some of the joints where two parts come together are not altogether smooth and in spite of its bulky appearance, the whole monitor does not feel as sturdy as perhaps it should. These are small maladies, however, which could be easily overlooked if it wasn't for Dell's excellent execution. The SX2210T's body is still made out of molded plastic, but somehow it feels a lot more luxurious and reassuring. Its stand also made a real impression on us -- made out of steel, it anchors the monitor in place and keeps it extremely stable on a desk, while the curved gap in the middle of it, seemingly an aesthetic element, acts as a neat cable tidy.
Wrap-up
Little details such as the above, getting the monitor's center of gravity just right, and ensuring a smooth and unerring exterior, are why we developed a strong preference for the Dell over the HP. Don't get us wrong, the HP aims at a broader audience with its added speakers, stylus, tilting and swiveling stand, and more universal OSD controls, but we just can't look past the fact that Dell gets right the things we care about. If you're a lefty, or someone who must have integrated speakers with his multitouch, perhaps HP fits the bill better. Our impression is that we thoroughly enjoyed using the Dell, whereas the HP was merely satisfactory.
On the multitouch front, regrettably little has changed over the past nine months. It's still a gimmick of sorts, and getting accustomed to the idiosyncrasies of the optical interface hardly seems worth the effort given the marginal advantages you can derive from it. Still, in some niche circumstances, such as running a HTPC of some flavor, we can definitely see why you might prefer ditching the keyboard and mouse, and in those cases -- aside from minor niggles and the odd unregistered tap -- you'll probably be quite happy you did it. It also functions as a pleasant occasional complement to regular old button mashing, but we reckon we'll be sticking with our tired but trusty board-based and rodent-inspired peripherals for now.
Since the two monitors use the exact same optical multitouch technology, what we hope to achieve here will be somewhat unorthodox. On the one hand, we'll use both to try and determine whether multitouch is worth it, and on the other, we'll pit them against each other in order to find out whose execution of the hardware around the multitouch interface is better. We've broken things down for you by category, assigning a winner for each, though quite naturally you can always hurry along to the wrap-up where we'll dish our opinion on the all-important and heavily pressing questions set out above. So let's dive in already.
Multitouch
So, the headline feature. The sinker or swimmer, the riser or faller, the coup de grace or the graceless cretin. The optical part of this multitouch display explains the way it functions -- a CMOS sensor, or tiny camera to the rest of us, is located in each of the top corners of the monitor panel, and the user's attempts at interfacing through touch are merely the two-dimensional mapping of his finger(s) in the space immediately in front of the screen. The good thing about this is that you don't have to touch the screen itself to get it to register your finger inputs, the bad thing about it is that you get no feedback or response when, inevitably, you do touch the screen. Additionally, you're pretty much forbidden from hovering over icons with your finger, because if it strays too close, the cameras might pick it up and register a click where you did not intend one.

Overall, this force-field approach to gathering input data is unintuitive to use, but with some acclimation time you can make it work. The major issue for us is that when a person, particularly a modern touchscreen smartphone-bred one, sees a big screen that invites "touch," his mental acuities are focused on physical contact and it's irksome to have so much touching going on with so little direct feedback.
What we can conclude is that the stalwart keyboard and mouse aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Multitouch, whether on laptops or desktops, remains a pale shadow of its input elders, particularly when compared in terms of responsiveness, ease and logicality of use, and celerity of feedback. Which is not to say it doesn't have a role to play in the future of personal computers. While we cannot see it replacing the traditional tools of the trade, we can certainly envisage scenarios where a touchscreen would complement them rather nicely. There's no law that says you have to use either a monitor's touchscreen capacities or the old school combo, and we'd say having the full set of options is no bad thing. Another positive, if digressive, conclusion to draw from our time is that yes, a netbook (Lenovo S10-2) can drive a 1920 x 1080 resolution pretty nicely, and even power through multitouch zooming, so long as it's used with patience and understanding.
Monitor head-to-head
Unboxing and setup

Style
You'd be lying to yourself if you said you didn't care about how a monitor looks. Frankly, with so much convergence around similar standards and resolutions, the one true distinguishing factor between monitors nowadays is exactly how they look. In terms of design and appearance, the Dell wins in a landslide. We particularly like the tapering transition on the side of the monitor between its dark front and creamy white back panel -- its sumptuous curvature makes the whole monitor seems slimmer than it really is, and grants it the sort of elegance that gets people commenting with approval. We should know, the few outsiders passing through the Engadget mansion noted the Dell's pretty exterior without fail. HP, on the other hand, appears somewhat confused about what it wants to achieve. The angular straight lines and bulky swiveling stand make allusions toward the serious, buttoned-up, and professional user, which are all but destroyed by the extra-glossy display. We still don't know what focus group decided that the consumer end of the market prefers its electronics in super-shiny glossy flavor, but there's certainly a clash of styles on the HP which even in the absence of the prettier Dell would be somewhat jarring and unappealing.Usability
Draw. The Dell's on-screen configuration menu is controlled by four side-mounted buttons which are helpfully accompanied by explicatory icons alongside each one so that you never have to wonder or guess what each button press will do. The HP moves these keys to the middle of the panel, which we found harder to access, although we appreciate that such a design is ambidextrous whereas Dell's is only convenient for right-handers. HP's big advantage on paper is in its stand, which swivels left and right, and also seems to have a greater vertical tilt range than Dell's. The benefit of this is debatable though, as in order to turn the monitor laterally, you have to hold the base down with your other hand, which essentially requires just as much effort as rotating the base itself. HP also throws in a set of speakers on its panel, which we found clear, but also pretty quiet even on their maximum setting. Certainly nothing to rely on in the long term, but a helpful extra if you're in a pinch. Dell's retaliation is in the form of a plenty useful webcam with stereo microphones around it, and an integrated USB hub.
Construction

Wrap-up
Little details such as the above, getting the monitor's center of gravity just right, and ensuring a smooth and unerring exterior, are why we developed a strong preference for the Dell over the HP. Don't get us wrong, the HP aims at a broader audience with its added speakers, stylus, tilting and swiveling stand, and more universal OSD controls, but we just can't look past the fact that Dell gets right the things we care about. If you're a lefty, or someone who must have integrated speakers with his multitouch, perhaps HP fits the bill better. Our impression is that we thoroughly enjoyed using the Dell, whereas the HP was merely satisfactory.
On the multitouch front, regrettably little has changed over the past nine months. It's still a gimmick of sorts, and getting accustomed to the idiosyncrasies of the optical interface hardly seems worth the effort given the marginal advantages you can derive from it. Still, in some niche circumstances, such as running a HTPC of some flavor, we can definitely see why you might prefer ditching the keyboard and mouse, and in those cases -- aside from minor niggles and the odd unregistered tap -- you'll probably be quite happy you did it. It also functions as a pleasant occasional complement to regular old button mashing, but we reckon we'll be sticking with our tired but trusty board-based and rodent-inspired peripherals for now.



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go Samsung
Go Apple!
Nope, bublik was correct. Samsung has the absolute best monitors available.
They also have bargain monitors at good price points. Another piece that apple will never match.
@Bublik25 Wait, does Samsung sell affordable monitors with PVA or IPS panels? All the ones I've seen were either TN or more expensive than Apple's. Not saying to buy Apple (Samsung probably provides better connectivity to merit the higher cost), but Apple's standalone monitors are usually PVA or IPS.
Love em!
I also gotta go with Dell, way more beautiful and I've never had a weakness for built-in speakers!
From what I've seen, multi-touch capabilities are taken advantage of more in the Windows 7 Touch Pack that OEMs have access to. The pack includes three "Microsoft Surface" applications such as Collage, Globe, and Lagoon.
I really don't like how low dell monitors are. Height adjustment please.
@Peytral +1 for your avatar, I wonder if she's real or CGI
@Peytral
*gives you a phonebook*
@Peytral I've seen this avatar on various names...pirate?
@silversun /b/irate
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Zoe_Kimball
@silversun
In the old engadget, I was Soulsaber
@Peytral Quite a few have a height adjustment. 2209WA and U2410 for example.
@YpoCaramel
U2410 also cost an arm and a leg in term of monitor price range.
Demoing new technology with a netbook like you guys just did makes the baby jesus cry :'(
Is there any way at all to mount one of these vertically (portrait)?
@x3m the new case modding heh
@x3m
The HP attaches to its stand using a standard VESA mount, so you should be able to detach it and reattach it in a portrait orientation. That is assuming the stand it tall enough to accommodate it. From the pictures it looks like it is, but without one to had I can't tell for sure.
As for the Dell, unless you plan on taping it to your wall, you won't be able to use it vertically.
@Phil P @FreshLeo
Thx guys... I was moustly just wondering, because I was just imagining 2 of these babies in a setup like this:http://www.improbableinsights.com/2009/10/05/ati-eyefinity-and-three-displays/
That would be just crazy..
picture re-size delay fail.
lol i thought it was some kinda wall mounted scanner.
Is there any way you can wall mount the Dell monitor? I want to use one as a multimedia interface on my living room wall.
@ffx566
The Dell has the mount attached inside the case, not with a VESA mount. You won't be able to wall-mount it without some fancy work.
The HP has a VESA mount, according to Phil P (I looked up the Dell, and I'll take Phil's word on the the other). It will be easily wall-mountable with a standard VESA bracket, but the Dell won't.
You can contact Dell to see if they offer a bracket that replaces the stand, but they don't currently list one on their site.
@ffx566
The HP is definitely wall mountable with a standard VESA 100 mount. I have one mounted right now and works perfectly. Currently have 2 of the HPs and they are very nice monitors.
I've been using the SX2210T for a project at work (sorry, can't talk about it).
The multitouch isn't half bad, I must say. Works great and is pretty responsive, plus as it uses cameras you don't need to have your finger directly on the screen; you can hover a millimetre above or so and it'll still work. Camera quality is absolutely fine for a conventional webcam, and the thing looks and feels solidly built. The bezel seems a little thick and clunky looking, though, but at least it's solid.
What I really need is an official launch for .NET 4.0 so that the native Windows 7 multitouch system works natively in WPF. That's the only gripe just now but Microsoft will fix it in time and it's not Dell's fault.
a comparison of two touch-displays and you dont even test these funcions out properly? no test of multitouch?
and also, for tactile feedback you can just hit the screen like a normal touchscreen, so i dont see the optical recogniton as a disadvantage as long as the input works correct.
Cool stuff. People still have brand loyalty to Compaq?
@Chris Aversa
in the same way people still have loyalty to burton....
You wouldn't buy a PC from Dell. Why buy a monitor from them? You will just get shoddy build quality.
Dell make some very nice screens, although a the better ones are rebadged Sonys.
@Proud Japanese
Dell makes some fantastic monitors, and while their consumer grade stuff might not be all that great they make very solid enterprise equipment.
@Proud Japanese
Dell's high-end monitors, like the 2207, 2407 and 3007 (I think these have since been replaced by newer versions) were both very highly rated. The 3007 was actually better received than the Apple 30" monitor.
Dell PCs and laptops are also decent. Not much inspiring, but decent. Better than Sony's recent stuff, and much lower prices.
And concerning the Japanese, most of the latest tech has been out of Taiwan, not Japan. At one time, the USA had the good stuff. Then Japan took the lead. Now it's Taiwan. The USA and Japan both do their share of innovating, but most of the mass-produced stuff is from Taiwan, not Japan.
It can't be very comfortable to use for a desktop PC, but I can see the application in other places.
Hey Manufacturers:
Knock it off with the 1920x1080 crap.
give us back the extra vertical space of 1920x1200.
@(Unverified) Give us BACK the extra vertical space? Dude, before that 22" monitors had only 1680x1050, so these new 16:9 monitors give you more resolution in both horizontal AND vertical!
@(Unverified)
Most of the 1920x1200 are 24" monitors, not 22" (or 21.5"). So in that regard, this is an improvement over the typical 1680x1050.
But in principle, I agree. I would like to see 22" be more commonly 1920x1200. That way you can watch your 1920x1080 video and not have to shrink or cover the video when you reveal the controls.
@Yoshi1080 I think you're missing the point.
He wants a 16:10 aspect ratio, and I have to agree. The setup in my den is used for both graphics work (Photoshop, After Effects) and sometimes as media playback. I'd much rather have the very minimal bars on top and bottom when watching 16:9 content, than having less pixel space.
Glossy? GLOSSY? People are going to be smearing their digits all over these things and you make them glossy? Aside from the fact that glossy sucks anyway, it sucks even more with people-grease on it!
And as (Unverified) said above, let's get back to 1920x1200, shall we? I don't understand this obsession with making our computer screens have the same aspect ratio as our TVs, except that of course they're cheaper to make because the panels are narrower. 8:5 (or 16:10) is such a nice aspect ratio for a screen....
@Old fogie late bloomer
The touchscreen only involves the screen, not the bezels. Glossy bezels look better, at least for the consumer market.
Besides, just keep a microfiber cloth handy and wipe the monitor off every now and then. Problem solved.
As far as televisions go, 16:9 ratios are already a compromise. Most movies are 21:9, and some even wider. Just wait until monitors go 21:9, and we'll hear you screaming without needing to read your post.
@Michael Pollard
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say; the pictures clearly show that the screens themselves are glossy. I didn't make any remark about the bezels; my current monitor has a glossy bezel and I don't particularly care because the panel itself is glorious matte. :D
As for the aspect ratio, I know everyone's got their own opinions on this, but I watched a 21:9 movie on my 16:10 screen just last night and the black bars really didn't kill the experience. On the other hand, for all of my other day-to-day activities the 16:10 ratio is just about ideal. Some people may buy 21:9 screens but I really don't see the benefit, myself. For the same amount of screen real estate I'd happily sacrifice some width for extra height.
Wondered about this optical multitouch stuff the whole time. So I guess I'll better wait for capacitive multitouch monitors, huh?
What about the HP Touchsmart, does that have an optical touchscreen too? I tried that out a couple of times in a store and it seemed to work pretty well. Then again, I didn't test it that much.
Just realized the Zune desktop software was made for touchscreens. haha, its good stuff btw
I read the first 60 words and didn't see the word Apple.
Everyone OK?
Apple don't have a touch screen? Maybe...?
There's a 23" Acer Touchscreen. Let's hear something about that. Acer T230Hbmidh
@SpeedyJDK
I've had the Acer for 2 weeks now. I have it mounted on an adjustable arm near my bed to control my media center in my bedroom with my 46 incher. I really like it. It's built well, larger than both of these and has higher contrast.
One thing, that for me is a must that the article seems to have missed is the fact that the Dell doesn't have any VESA mount. You're stuck with it on the tabletop stand and that blows. I would NEVER choose the Dell for that reason alone. Touch monitors need to be on articulating arms in order to get the most use out of them (imo).
The HP is ugly though. But I bet if the Acer was thrown into the mix the winner would clearly be neither of the two models reviewed here.
That said, I really dig my Acer T230H. For me, it's the perfect solution.
@wooties
The Acer 23" Touchscreen is cheaper than the Dell Monitor in my country :)))))))))))
A question for you then, is it Multitouch ?
@SpeedyJDK
Yo. Yup, it is multi touch. It uses the same optical tech as the dell and the HP. It's cheaper than the Dell in the states too. I picked it up through Amazon. ..
If you're going to go for a touchscreen I say go or the Acer, you won't be disappointed. :)
@wooties
Ok, it's on my wish list now :D. It's on saleslists here, but not available yet, maybe 10days, some place sais ;))))
Also, the HP one can't be bought here either, only the Dell one is available. And i'm quite suprised it is :)
"Frankly, with so much convergence around similar standards and resolutions, the one true distinguishing factor between monitors nowadays is exactly how they look"
I don't agree with that. It is true that many people choose from very similar monitors, but I feel it is more because people aren't taking advantage of important distinguishing features:
1. Ergonomic considerations - adjustable arm allowing for tilt and pivot and rotating the screen to portrait mode.
2. Panel quality and technology - people might say TN is good enough for them, but there are good and bad TN panels out there. This goes double for laptops. The benefits of PVA and IPS panels might not be sufficient for everyone given the price - but if you use your monitor heavily for media, it could be worth it. If you have a PVA Bravia TV, why not a PVA or IPS monitor?