http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/ Engadget Comments for Zune HD getting magenta and purple flavors on December 1st http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/No.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
That would be EPIC. I'd have to buy it]]>Nov 29th 2009 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/No.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 29th 2009 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/No.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
You're several years too late. Sorry.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 29th 2009 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
This is Microsoft's power move?]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Oh. Shut the fuck up.
As we all know, Apple got lucky with their indie music and quirky commercials.
Not to mention that Apple had a massive head start.
Microsoft has created and excellent product and I know that Zune is definitely second in "mindshare" and "wantshare".
Believe me, if Microsoft went all out with commercials and flashing lights.
They'd be on top.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
12595 people were begging for one yesterday.

But you are right, nobody wants one, knows what they are, or (insert any of the other Apple fanboy talking points here).]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/in case you didn't understand, just reread joaqdelx's first line. For a hundred times. And then multiply by 1000. If you ever feel the urge to comment again just keep repeating yourself that line until the urge fades.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Oh yes, what great argument! But perhaps it would be most effective to take your own advice, eh?]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/> "Believe me, if Microsoft went all out with commercials and flashing lights. They'd be on top."

Then why didn't they? That was kinda my point. With the first Zune, Microsoft waited 5 years before making their first move. Then they got a second chance by waiting and evaluating the market before they launched the Zune HD.

You already admitted that Apple had a massive head start... do you really think they were gonna be anything but second place at this point?

There was sooo much blog talk about the Zune HD leading up to the launch of the Zune HD. Then... nothing.

@smartmouth

Good advice. But I'll keep making my comments at the top of the thread so everyone can read them.

Why should I shut up? Am I incorrect? Weren't there a large number of Zune HD articles on this website... and then suddenly no one talked about it anymore?

People always say Apple is a hype machine. But, the difference is... Apple happens to be the leader in this market segment.

The Zune HD was hyped to the hills, and then where did it go?]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
Wow... I was down-ranked into oblivion.

If you look closely, and don't jump to conclusions, I meant that the Zune HD was all over Engadget in the weeks leading up to its launch... and then it quietly disappeared.

Remember... I didn't even mention Apple until "joaqdelx" brought it up.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
"and then suddenly no one talked about it anymore?"
"The Zune HD was hyped to the hills, and then where did it go?"

Just because Engadget does not report it, does not mean there was no news. The Microsoft introduced the Zune marketplace on the 360 with the new firmware, Engadget never reported that the update was available, even though I sent in a tip. (Actually, the last 2 major 360 updates were never announced here on Engadget, but every update of the PS3 is quickly put up).

Zune HD won the Popular Science PMP innovation of the year award. And even though I sent it in as a tip, Engadget never reported it.

There has been lots of other news, but just because web sites to not report it, it does not mean that there is not a lot happening.]]>Nov 28th 2009 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
No the red has been there since the start]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 29th 2009 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
Actually, it was available for a little while and it is a pastel red. What about the atomic zune? ]]>Nov 29th 2009 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
Paint on, brothers and sisters, paint on.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
And remember, there's no mistakes, just happy coincidences.]]>Nov 28th 2009 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 29th 2009 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 29th 2009 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
+1 for light urple. "ima girl you know"]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
So much for providing Apple with some competition.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
On Amazon in the top 100 for servers, not one Mac Mini Server. So much for providing Microsoft with some competition.

Windows 7 sold more in 2 weeks than Snow Leopard sold in three months. And now Win7 marketshare has passed all versions of OSX marketshare. So much for providing Microsoft with some competition.]]>Nov 28th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
iPods (any version) have sold more than Zune.

Windows (any version) has sold more than OSX.

To review... Apple sells the most MP3 players... Microsoft sells the most operating systems.]]>Nov 28th 2009 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
I am sorry, I thought this thread was about zune and mp3 players.
]]>Nov 28th 2009 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
If somebody was to imply that OSX was crap because the marketshare does not match up to Windows, how long until the Apple signal would be displayed in the sky (like the Bat Signal) and a swarm of Apple fanboys would be attacking. We hear that the OSX market share is lower, but it is better. We hear that the OSX market share is lower, but Steve Jobs is not going for the huge marketshare (despite the commercials trying to sell more).

But a non-Apple product does not have the high marketshare of an Apple product, and it should be mocked, and the low market share implies that it is an inferrior product.

The thing is, Apple fanboys complain that PC users are locked into Windows, because they are not going to throw away their existing software, hardware, and buy something completely new. Some thing with the Zune - if you have 100s of dollars invested in iTunes, and accessories, why switch to the Zune? There are some switchers, just like there have been some Mac switchers, but it is hard to get the dominant product out of people's minds.]]>Nov 28th 2009 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
I was just saying that the OS war and iPod/Zune war is different.]]>Nov 28th 2009 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
The iPod was introduced after many years of dominance by other players but quickly became #1 because of its ease of use, friendly control/interface and fun factor. iTunes came much much later, long after iPod(s) became #1.

Microsoft decided to jump in the race too but didn't fare as well. The lack of experience in building hardware, specially with human-interfaces, unusual choice of certain features and incorrect business strategy led to poor sales. Eventually MS withdrew all existing Zune models off the market and replaced them with a single flash model, the Zune HD.

Apparently, the market in general still does not find the Zune an attractive choice.]]>Nov 28th 2009 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
Actually, you are wrong. Pocket PC 2000 was released April 19, 2000. The first iPod was released October 30, 2001. iTunes (bought from another company) was first released Jan 9, 2001, and the iPod used iTunes to transfer music with iTunes 2.0.

Why was Pocket PC 2000 significant? It included WMP, meaning that there were portable devices from MS supporting music playback before the iPod. In 2008 WinMo sold 20 million phones. As of Sept 1, 2009, MS sold 20 Million. According to Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/11/whats-an-iphone-14-3m-windows-mobile-phones-sold-in-the-past-s/) the last half of 2007 MS sold 14.3 Million phones. So MS has sold 54.3 portable music devices in a 2 year span. Add in the number of Zunes sold, along with WinMo sales from 2000 through June 2007, and that ratio of Apple music capable devices compared to Microsoft music capable devices, and that "commanding" marketshare Apple owns shinks, significantly.]]>Nov 29th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
I also don't agree with about the market not find the Zune HD an attractive choice. The market just doesn't know about the the choice. I'm sure MS was aware of the impact the Zune HD would have.]]>Nov 29th 2009 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 29th 2009 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/
If you ask a simple question, not trying to be antagonistic, etc. then I am not going to go after you as a fanboy, so don't worry.

Here is how it usually works around here:
It makes no difference what the article is about, some Apple fanboy will work an Apple product into the conversation. Article is about the Chevy Volt, Apple fanboy brings up the iPhone. If the article is about the Kindle - somehow the mythical iPad is brought up. There was one person who told me that Win7 was irrelevant because the iPhone runs OSX. There was even one person who would, in every singe article, post the word iPhone. Nothing more, just "iPhone" When that person was finally banned, there was outrage over the supposed "censorship" on this web site.

Now, in this article, somebody is talking about the huge marketshare lead Apple has with their music players over the Microsoft offerings. The Apple MP3 players include the iPod, iPod shuffle, iTouch, and iPhone (there is no difference between the iPhone and iTouch other than the radio stack). So I compare all the portable MP3 players that MS has on the market, and the MP3 players that Apple has on the market, and suddenly I am in the wrong. And that is the problem, Apple fanboys can be as broad as they want when making an argument, but then when you offer a counter argument they are upset because they now want to be specific. We have seen Apple fanboys compare the Zune 4/8/16/30/60/120 to the iTouch, saying those older versions of the Zune do not have a touch screen, do not have a web browser, etc. So when Zune supporters say that the older Zune is not comparable to the iTouch - they claim it is a MP3 player, the iTouch is an MP3 player, so they can be compared. Apple fanboys compare the Zune HD to the iPhone, mocking the HD because it is not a phone. But when I make comparisons to MS phones which offer MP3 playback to iPhone, I am wrong for going off topic.

And as for my comment about Amazon rankings, it was to show the absurdity of the OP comment. Besides, this article is about Zune HD colors, what does Amazon rankings have to do with color?

I will say that Apple fanboys have decent debating skills. Say whatever they want, then try to constrain the argument to fit into their specific view.]]>Nov 29th 2009 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 29th 2009 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/28/zune-hd-getting-magenta-and-purple-flavors-on-december-1st/Nov 28th 2009 8:15PM