http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/ Engadget Comments for Dell releases bevy of firmware updates to fix most of what ails some of you http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 8:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Does it only do it when it's plugged in? My Vostro 1500 did that when I first got it, apparently there was an issue with the revision A00 power bricks. See if you can get a replacement that is A01 or higher. If you still have a warranty with Dell this shouldn't be hard as that's all they have now.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
Obviously this was a serious BIOS fault, and those usually warrant a complete re-build.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 8:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
Go to support.dell.com, select Drivers and Downloads for the appropriate system, and you'll see a list of hard drives that have firmware updates.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
I did try that but could not locate the firmware. I tried multiple searches with no luck finding the correct firmware.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
New HD Firmware:
http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&releaseid=R250673&SystemID=LAT_E6400&servicetag=&os=WLH&osl=en&deviceid=22417&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=1&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=41&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&fileid=366464


New System BIOS:
http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&releaseid=R246462&SystemID=LAT_E6400&servicetag=&os=WLH&osl=en&deviceid=15569&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=10&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=1&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&fileid=358515

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Thanks Ralph, now I see why I couldn't find it. I have the 500GB hard drive.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
Anyway, I know mention Apple can be a kick in the teeth here, so please be kind.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=459306
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What a difference a little comma makes, eh?]]>Dec 3rd 2009 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
I feel as though both "performance" and "performance as usual" mean the same thing in this sentence. I'm just not seeing the pro-Dell side of this at all.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/The new Latitude, I think.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
The bios updates DO NOT fix the issue. Tinkerdude did more testing and found the updates slow the performance but since the problem wasnt with ACTUAL overheating, but the system THINKING that its overheating... so no update is going to fix it, just lower the performance, problems arent as noticeable, and it might shut up half the people that have the issue. Mine seems to be persistant, and i dont want to use 1/2 my laptop, nor can i. I cannot do my job if i cannot use my computer to the max of its capabilities. This isnt fair, and it hasnt been fixed for over a year. A YEAR!

BIOS A18 NO GOOD FOR MY E6500! ]]>Dec 3rd 2009 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
ps: the notebook in the picture looks like a latitude e6500]]>Dec 3rd 2009 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
Strange thing is on another Engadget post about these issues from i think yesterday... when you click on page 2 or 3 in comments it sends you back to HOMEPAGE.. but if i use an old link it works.. so even engadget is censoring this for DELL.. i posted how angry i was there and honestly i think they dont want people seeing that their updates are still not fixing anything.. and the things i do along with those updates show that nothing dell can tell me to do fixes it... their mathematics are faulty before theyt even made the MOTHERBOARD.. it cannot be fixed... only patched.. like fixing a hole in a boat with duck tape.. it aint gonna hold, not to mention it wont perform like it was advertised it would.

i feel like i purchased a Toyota off ebay and got a Toy Yoda in the mail, and their telling me that it is STILL A TOYOTA and that i can drive it... but might makes right.. and $$$ = might = dell. ]]>Dec 3rd 2009 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
Basically they put the bios into compatibility mode, and i dont think thats ethical. I baught these specs, nothing less. I am cheated out of 2,000$ and its not fair. If it was a big corporation that was geting cheated you would have already seen lawsuits and a recall. But not enough people have made a fuss big enough. Not to mention what would have been recalled before the recession, is no longer recalled due to huge loss of profits.

for all we know it was a do or die situation for dell when they released this model. maybe they knew about all the issues and that 95% of the laptops would have severe enough problems that a release would have been scrapped. The heads would have been fired and new ones braught in. So instead they patched it up jsut like their doing now. They kept it hush hush and said noone would notice until enough were sold that huge profits could be made... the future was not taken into account because when a problem is big enough all that matters is living to see the next day. And thats what they did. They allowed these E series to be released with RECALL worthy issues and now they are again pressed against a wall, cornered. And their trying to PATCH it up.. its just NOT GONNA FIX anything.

same or similar issues will arise and dell will say it is unrelated to the throttling and take aanother year to acknowledge that it is a severe issue. By then i would have been fired from my second job, because i am about to be fired from this one due to not being able to do my job because im always reloading the laptop, now i know better... its not me. Its dell telling me that its me!]]>Dec 3rd 2009 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 11:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
I'll dig around in the bios to see if I can stop that, but if that is the 'fix'...bleugh]]>Dec 3rd 2009 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
At this point its like.. even if they do manage to fix it completely and tinkerdude says HEY EVERYTHING IS GREAT NOW! im gonna be very skeptical and really doubt they fixed it. If they give tinkerdude a few hundred thousand dollars to shut up and say dell fixed it, they can legally prohibit him from telling us anymore truths abotut heir practices and this issue in particular. Its really scary, because with the $$$ that dell has.. comes the ability to make anything happen. Unfortunately the people that run companies are the heads for a reason, they have no problem with stepping over people and doing unethical things for profits, thats called capitalism.

i dont think i can ever use a E6500 or a similar looking dell laptop and be happy with it, im just so tainted by this, and the GX260/270 CAPACITOR/POWER SUPPLY issues, that i feel like i have handcuffs on when i use my E6500.

Im one of several guys that everyone in our company calls for help, and im the one whose computer is always down. They laugh at me, my boss almost fired me because he thinks i always get viruses and visit websites against company policy. Dude I GOT A DELL!]]>Dec 3rd 2009 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/We usually buy our notebooks with pro support, so we get a replacement at the next business day.
Just call the pro support. They will most likely tell you to switch the harddisk with a notebook which has the same specs and so on.
Just tell them, that you are fed up with all these bugs and insist that you want your notebook replaced.

Not all of the E6400/E6500 notebooks are affected by this bug. Just hope for a working replacement.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Version: A18

Fixes/Enhancements
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1. Updated thermal table.
2. Removed HDD Acoustic support.
3. Enhanced INT 19h support.

So, are they simply setting the HDD to Quiet Mode so it will run slower and therefore reduce heat????????

SCREW THAT!!!!!!!!]]>Dec 3rd 2009 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
dell wont answer any of my posts anywhere. and even engadget is limiting the info on this. which probably will get me censored here. the other engadget post removed the ability to go to comment page 2 and 3.. the links just send you to the engadget home page.. nice guys! i guess dell has alot of pull in your industry.

dell is taking performance down to 50% to fool people into thinking its fixed.. and the majority thinks the problem IS fixed.. BUT IT IS NOT! and i am not sattisfied with anything less than the machine i baught.. i cannot do my job if the specs are limited to anything less than max. When i buy something i want to be able to overclock it, not had to underclock it.

this will go away silently and we wont hear much about any more issues soon, their gonna shut everyone up.,. if there is no resource on the issue then it must no be an issue = damage control]]>Dec 3rd 2009 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/This model should be in higher priority than those latitude models, its barely new
]]>Dec 3rd 2009 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
its not the HardDrive, its not acoustics, its not overheating.. IT THINKS ITS OVERHEATING.. the problem cannot be fixed.. only patched and the system gets hindered. when engadget says REMEMBER THROTTLEGATE.. what does it mean? throttlegate is NOW.. it hasnt stopped.. and its not slowing down. dell is still denying that it is unfixable..

dell wont answer any of my posts anywhere. and even engadget is limiting the info on this. which probably will get me censored here. the other engadget post removed the ability to go to comment page 2 and 3.. the links just send you to the engadget home page.. nice guys! i guess dell has alot of pull in your industry.

dell is taking performance down to 50% to fool people into thinking its fixed.. and the majority thinks the problem IS fixed.. BUT IT IS NOT! and i am not sattisfied with anything less than the machine i baught.. i cannot do my job if the specs are limited to anything less than max. When i buy something i want to be able to overclock it, not had to underclock it.

this will go away silently and we wont hear much about any more issues soon, their gonna shut everyone up.,. if there is no resource on the issue then it must no be an issue = damage control]]>Dec 3rd 2009 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
NOT COOL ENGADGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]>Dec 3rd 2009 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
I get the sense that this is intermittent and not systemic. That's what's kept me so far from canceling the deal. Plus, there's no other track-point laptop that is as slick and "family-room worthy" in my opinion.

Thoughts?]]>Dec 3rd 2009 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 3rd 2009 9:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
guys engadget is helping dell with this.. last night i emailed tim.stevens from engadget and he acknowledged there is an issue with the comments and it will be fixed because the links are missing a "/" so its taking everyone back to homepage. BUT ITS BEEN OVER 24 HOURS AND NO FIX!! and the thread is dead about the dell issue there because of it... THEIR DOING DAMAGE CONTROL BECAUSE THEY DIDNT HTINK THIS WOULD HIT SO BIG!!!]]>Dec 4th 2009 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/
This is very irritating as it is noisy. You can't change it in the bios. My CPU is at 29C so isn't hot at all. The fan air is cold. It even does this on battery - ignoring Windows settings to passively cool only - which will also suck up more juice.

So now we have aggressive fan use as well as aggressive throttling!]]>Dec 4th 2009 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 4th 2009 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Dec 4th 2009 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=423241&page=22 and the first half of the forum at :: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=293401

engadget should have looked more into the issue before these two articles.]]>Dec 4th 2009 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/dell-releases-bevy-of-firmware-updates-to-fix-most-of-what-ails/Jan 9th 2010 2:29PM