http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/ Engadget Comments for Google and Microsoft join I3A's Camera Phone Image Quality Initiative http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 3rd 2009 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 3rd 2009 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 3rd 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/
Those lenses give you the option of having different focal lengths, but at the end everything is still going through the low quality lense in the camera, which hurts sharpness, clarity, and color immensely]]>Dec 3rd 2009 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/
but agreed, the picture quality of the 3gs is quite good for a phone camera.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/that's cuz good glass cost money and manufacturers want the build of materials to be as inexpensive where possible since it's a phone not a camera.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/
It'd be awesome to have a standard for the image quality all camera phones offer.
I loved my 3.15mp Sony Ericsson K790 camera.
Ever since i changed my phone to a Nokia 5530 XM for its attractions, its 3.15mb camera is no match for the older one. The pictures are blurry and indoor they are worse. I wish we had a standard so phone makers wouldnt market phones with big MP numbers that have poor picture quality otherwise.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/https://www.communicationsdirectnews.com/do.php/150/36148?199

I remember reading a while back, here in Engadget, about UCSD or CSUSD (I think was one of the universities in San Diego, but could be wrong). They were working on lenses to focus the light from a larger area, it kinda looked like the mirrors on disco balls in a bigger area of the phone, the sensor was the same. Then again, I have bad memory, could be fever hallucination.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/
Some cameras like the cybershot cellphone can use point and shoot sensors that can be as large as 1/1.6" (which is 10 times as large a sensor as a 1/4").

Right now we are using megapixels, and measuring sensor size in fraction of an inch isn't very representative of relative sensor size. Neither are representative of the quality of picture you take.

Sensor size is important because the 1/4" sensors are so small they have an infinite depth of field, and don't require AF, but lack in picture quality, larger sensors have better performance.

Hopefully, such a system can be carried over to point-and-shoot cameras as well. Megapixels are a silly metric, a 12MP cellphone cam shouldn't be compared to a 12MP Nikon D3 or 10MP Canon 1DMkIII.]]>Dec 3rd 2009 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/So you are saying there should be some initiative to get a formalized quality indicator, let me for giggles called it i3a.
Clever thought of you, what made you think of that?

]]>Dec 4th 2009 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/And then there's the interface to the sensor, and the colordepth, I've seen cameras on phones that I swear can't be 24bit, the pictures (bright daylight ones) look like it's 256 colors that are dithered (and I'm talking sony phones here), and I mean viewed on a teal monitor not some dithering caused by the phone display.

Talking of sony, they are member too, which makes me distrust this initiative.]]>Dec 4th 2009 4:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 3rd 2009 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 3rd 2009 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 3rd 2009 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/The initiative is to FIX all of the things you just pointed out...]]>Dec 3rd 2009 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 3rd 2009 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14rZ8My2o-k]]>Dec 3rd 2009 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/google-and-microsoft-join-i3as-camera-phone-image-quality-initi/Dec 4th 2009 6:40PM