http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
At the Institute, everyone is required to use only Thunderbird and Firefox, or Explorer.]]>Dec 6th 2009 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
the "institute" don't you mean looney bin?]]>Dec 6th 2009 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
no. chrome looks like it was designed by fisher-price with the stupid blue buttons.]]>Dec 6th 2009 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/You're out of your mind.
1. Firefox
2. Opera
]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/don't worry. everyone here seems to be a firefox fangirl...

chrome is the fastest, and best.

why the fcuk would anyone want to download billions of "add-ons" constantly just to be able to see different web-sites? Firefox is a bloatware.]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
Ahh yes, the Fisher-Price argument. When WinXP was released, the Anti-MS people were saying that XP looked like it was designed by Fisher-Price.

Obligatory Ghandi quote: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."]]>Dec 6th 2009 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
It's too bad that Firefox is old and bloated.]]>Dec 6th 2009 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
You're obviously still using XP. The chrome browser uses Aero on anything newer.]]>Dec 6th 2009 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/But even in Vista it's still the same.]]>Dec 6th 2009 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 9:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/FALSE. I didn't say nothing about open-source. I said that chrome is good because all the parts that make it work are under the hood.
FireFox comes incomplete, and you have to spend half a lifetime downloading little "apps" for it to work properly.

I just want to surf, not keep upgrading and tweaking my browser.]]>Dec 6th 2009 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
/s]]>Dec 6th 2009 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
Infact, even chrome and safari take a lot of features from opera every new make and then say something like, "we've put together the best of everything you love."

safari on the mac isnt that bad, their speed dial front is really really nice, and their interface isnt as bad a chrome.

and for chrome, even though being the worst piece of shit software ever, i have to give kudos to its threading system and process handling.]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/ Douche, chrome's speed rocks,(opens after 4 secs from a cold start, for me) and opera has soo many ridiculous--and useful--features, though safari does=meh.
i do agree with you on ie, however. :)]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/"chrome's speed rocks,(opens after 4 secs from a cold start, for me)"

4 seconds?! Is that supposed to be fast or something? Seriously... For a featureless browser that's an eternity.
And it might render a page 50ms faster (can you even notice that?), but it lacks the features that make _using_ the browser faster, so at the end it's actually slow.]]>Dec 6th 2009 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/You mean in the same way women won't touch you with a ten foot pole?]]>Dec 6th 2009 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/it rocks when your'e concerning my pc, especially when firefox can take up to 30 seconds to open.]]>Dec 6th 2009 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Perspectives. Perspectives. Circumstances.
P.S. Is that a cat or a mouse?]]>Jan 17th 2010 4:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/It also is FOSS (free open-source software) which means it cannot violate anti-monopoly laws by nature.

For Internet Explorer you have to pay for a Windows licence, which falls under paid goods/services.]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
Now they have anit-monopoly laws???]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Wait, doesn't Chuck Noris run Chrome OS?
Doesn't that mean the EU should also make him give people choices of Safari OS, Opera OS and Firfox OS too?

oh wait........ never mind.]]>Dec 6th 2009 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
OS/2 Warp, wow that takes me back. But to be fair about that, MS did jiontly develop it.]]>Dec 7th 2009 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 7th 2009 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/What else would they spend it on? Cookies?]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 6th 2009 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
No, they do not get paid per browser. Neither do Opera, Google, Apple, nor Mozilla. So why would they complain if they are not getting paid per browser as they are on equal footing with MS.

But MS does need to pay to accomidate these requests. It costs money to employ people, power the computers, etc. to create the specs, write the code, and test it. No, this is not a simple thing to write. I am sure MS is using a crypto RNG to decide the order in the ballot, as if Opera can find any reason to complain to the EU (if you start your computer at a specific time of the day, you always will get IE as first in the list, and that is just not fair *cry*) they will complain.]]>Dec 6th 2009 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
They spend it all on snacks for the staff, exactly. Gotta keep eating at the computer :]]>Dec 6th 2009 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 7th 2009 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 7th 2009 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Dec 7th 2009 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
there are double standards here. why isnt apple forced to give a choice? oh right, because it isnt MS. Marketshare means nothing when consumers have a choice, and they just happen to want to buy a windows computer. MS doesnt have a monopoly. it isnt a monopoly if you can choose to buy another computer like a mac or linux comp.]]>Dec 6th 2009 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/Just because there are alternatives doesn't mean there is no monopoly...

The Microsoft platform (incl. Windows, Office and their file formats) are proprietary which is not particularly a bad thing.
But these "standards" are not fully compatible or crossplatform.

Don't forget that Microsoft used IE and WMP to force Windows Server licences. The same will probably happen with Moonlight/Silverlight aswell.
History is repeating...]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/microsoft-reportedly-randomizing-eu-browser-ballots-ask-are-yo/
office has nothing to do with IE

you argument makes 0 sense]]>Dec 6th 2009 6:19PM