http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/ Engadget Comments for USB 3.0 ExpressCard adapter promises more than it can deliver http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/ So the total bandwith available should be 2.5 Gb/s combined for the two ports.]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 8th 2009 1:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/My macbook doesn't have an express port :) It's a feature to prevent misinformed purchases. ]]>Dec 7th 2009 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
Actually it's a feature to put a choke collar on you and force you to buy Apple licensed products. ]]>Dec 7th 2009 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 8th 2009 1:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
Your numbers are correct, but you're missing one critical element of the ExpressCard spec: the ExpressCard slot allows cards to connect EITHER to the internal PCI Express bus OR the internal USB bus, so as others have already mentioned, it's quite possible that this card was designed to connect to the USB bus, despite how boneheaded that is/would be.]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
And I bought it at Microcenter. I miss Microcenter. Nearest one's now 3 hours away.]]>Dec 7th 2009 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/I wish I could share your joy. An ATX12V extension cable cost me over ten dollars.]]>Dec 7th 2009 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/I find their stuff works, but a lot of times horribly overpriced.]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
You may notice the 2 ends that are completely diff. in shape. This is for maximum potential in your pleasure zones if getting butt-mugged by businesses is your thing. Hope this helps.]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
Ray: That's fine.
Fabian: Wow, this is great, thank you! Are you okay with me posting this chatlog on engadgets
comments?
Ray: It connects using a PCIe bridge, not USB.
Fabian: They refer to your product with ID: ECUSB3S2
Fabian: Hey Ray! I've recently seen this article on engadget.com (http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-ten-times-more-than-it-can), stating your expresscard usb3.0 will not support more than 480mbit/s. Can you tell me anything about this? (I.e. is your card connecting internally via usb or via pci-e?
Ray: How can I help you today?
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That said, the card should support up to 2.5GBit/s, which is more than enough, I think!]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
lol, I read the chat top to bottom and I'm like wtf?]]>Dec 7th 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 8th 2009 4:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/They use MacBooks.]]>Dec 7th 2009 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/exactly what i wanted to say! ;)]]>Dec 8th 2009 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
Uh... to make money?]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 8th 2009 12:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
Yes. When USB 3.0 external hard drives will be available in the near future, owners of not-so-old-but-lacking-usb3.0 laptops will be able to use these cards to get better speeds than usb 2.0 (if the card is connected through the PCI bus which apparently it does).

Yes, of course it won't be able to reach the top speed of 3.0 but judging by the past, lets face it, neither will the onboard ports.

Yes, there is always eSata but external drives using this interface are rare and usually cost more.

It wasn't so hard, now was it, Engadget? ]]>Dec 7th 2009 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
when/if these are available for Desktop PC's PCI slots, will they also be limited to 2.5gbps? (which hey still is worth it)

also if i have an older device, like an iPhone 3Gs, will i be able to just upgrade to the USB 3.0 slots via PCIe, then replace my iPhone cable (assuming apple sells one in the near future) and then get the USB transfer rates?

i got my computer about a month ago, i wanted to wait until 3.0 went mainstream, however i wasnt expecting to get a new computer for at least a few more years. my last one had a full on melt-down. (hard drive/motherboard fried)]]>Dec 7th 2009 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/Dec 7th 2009 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
one of the things i like most about Engadget/joystick/sometimes autoblog are the small little comedic lines the put into their articles. sure they are not always accurate, but they are amusing. they also make mistakes, and are normally pretty quick to update the post, while leaving their mistake for people to see (instead of pretending they never made the mistake)]]>Dec 7th 2009 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
Don't worry, an Apple product will make headlines soon enough]]>Dec 8th 2009 6:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
PCI-E 1x only delivers half the bandwidth needed. (this also applies to old school PCI that's not PCI-X @66MHz or 64 bits used in servers) That's a function of the physical specification, not this manufacturer being cheap. Now we know that NO manufacturer can claim full USB3 on an Expresscard or PC card.

That's also a limit for DESKTOPS as well. To get proper USB3 one would need PCI-E 4x which is on some desktops, but not most cheaper ones. So again, there will be lots of cheap cards that don't have full throughput.

There are other reasons you might want USB3 though. It's still more than twice as fast as USB2 if you have a faster device that can use it. USB3 also supports higher powered devices without external power supplies. USB3 also has support for new ways of managing data flow that are more efficient than USB2 methods, and you'll get those commands to the device at USB3 specs, not slower, less efficient USB2 specs.]]>Dec 7th 2009 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/usb-3-0-expresscard-adapter-promises-more-than-it-can/
The SD card slot is a bag of hurt.]]>Dec 7th 2009 12:10PM