http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/ Engadget Comments for VMware wants dual-OS virtualized smartphones, no ugly boot-loaders http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Android Sucks!!! WinMo Rulezzz!!!!!

This is the truth.]]>Dec 7th 2009 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Stfu stupid noob.]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/I love how Engadget nukes crappy posts like yours. :)]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Microsoft's Windows Mobile phone OS is already dead. Its fallen market share shows the public has abandoned it.]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 10:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Before everything it's a phone :)]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
As far as OS on all phones go, battery consumption, speed, and task managing must be improved and as always calls and text messages must come FIRST no matter what. These should be fixed before considering dual booting I think.]]>Dec 7th 2009 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Yup. That'd probably be my favorite phone ever.]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
VMWare trying to expand their horizons are going down the wrong route with virtualised mobile operating systems.

Yeah, maybe it would be nice to run Android on a WinMo phone, but other than that single case, what other value does this have? Not to mention Android can probably run on a WinMo phone natively *anyway* with a bit of XDA Developers work.]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Gimme plain old dual-boot WinMo/Android right now and I'll pee hot chocolate milk!]]>Dec 7th 2009 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Dual-boot does not mean one OS running of top of another.

It won't slow down anything.]]>Dec 7th 2009 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/VMWare means OS running on top of another. So does 'virtualized'.]]>Dec 8th 2009 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
I think phones should be like PCs, all manufacturers should agree on some standard architecture on which it's possible to install any OS you want.]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Completely agreed. You buy a form factor and style but the basic innards can work with any OS currently available. I'd install OS X, Maemo, Symbian and WinMo.]]>Dec 7th 2009 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 8:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/I wondering if it was just a doctored photo or a 'leaked' Dream 2 shot, lol.]]>Dec 7th 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/white-g1-1.jpg]]>Dec 7th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Thank you for saying it! The reality is that most consumers don't need or care for such things. They want quick and easy. I really don't see the mass need for this at all. ]]>Dec 7th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/But being able to choose your OS on phone hardware you like when you buy it... That will be important for everyone. It would be like wanting a Touch Pro2 but wanting Android rather than WinMo. Or liking the MotoDroid but preferring WinMo. This would give you a choice.

I also see this being important for people who have one phone for work and personal use. Android is a consumer oriented OS, but WinMo is very customizable for business and Exchange servers. Both on one device would be awesome.]]>Dec 7th 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
http://vimeo.com/3363448]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
I see tech freedom as a good thing especially in a world where the cell phone companies dictate which rom or radio you use.]]>Dec 7th 2009 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
The work OS would have whatever done to it that is needed; setup on a domain, locked wi-fi, whatever, you name it. That OS is completely and totally oblivious to the 2nd OS that is happily downloading viruses via infectmenow.org.

Then, say in the event of an issue or termination, the corporate OS needs to be wiped remotely, as is an option with Exchange/ActiveSync and Crackberry. That virtual OS gets wiped while the personal OS continues on its merry way, tweeting and opening viruses.

Take this real situation: A company gets a nice volume deal through Verizon on Blackberry phones. The company somehow manages to show that moving all employee's mobile corporate e-mail is more cost effective to 'force' them all onto RIM. (Yeah I'm still confused on that, but this client did it.) Aside from that, the corp wanted to have a single, streamlined way to be able to control any internal information, a la wiping a phone in the event of a disgruntled termination, which at least that is understandable. Their IT and other tech savvy people who had everything from WinMo to iPhones, all getting corporate e-mail either via ActiveSync or POP3/IMAP had to start carrying a company-owned Blackberry. Needless to say, many of them would love this option, and their company's bottom line would too.]]>Dec 7th 2009 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Though in the mobile world Apple, RIM, Palm and Nokia are on the locked-in OS side, and Microsoft and Google are on the open-OS side. It wouldn't surprise me if Android becomes the standard OS for most mobile manufacturers, with only a small number who develop and maintain their own OS for the hardware.

I guess Android would become the Windows of the mobile world, Windows would become the Linux of the mobile world, and Apple, RIM, Palm and Nokia would become...the Apple of the mobile world? ]]>Dec 7th 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
Even if you can somehow manage to trick the bootloader into loading another OS, alot of stuff doesn't work.

We need to make it clear to companies we want OPEN handsets so we can modify them how we want to. As for encryption, there are still ways to handle it on a fully open system.]]>Dec 7th 2009 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Most of the time that's not the company's fault. It is the fault of the manufacturers of the internal components who make their drivers closed source. At least that is the case on Maemo and I assume it is the case on Android too.
The iPhone on the other hand...]]>Dec 7th 2009 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
How sick would it be on a phone? Lol.]]>Dec 7th 2009 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/
I know right?

I saw the picture and got all excited then read the title :(]]>Dec 7th 2009 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/I'm scared that when I do a P43/C2D/8gb DDR3/GT 240 build I'm not going to be able to boot eCS. They really need to work on bringing ACPI up to speed. PAE (Physical Address Extension) support for the 32bit kernel would help, we'd atleast be able to address up to 128gb of RAM.]]>Dec 7th 2009 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/vmware-wants-dual-os-virtualized-smartphones-no-ugly-boot-loade/Dec 7th 2009 10:56AM