http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/ Engadget Comments for IEEE will push next 802.11 to 1Gbps speeds, two-letter designations in 2012 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
soon here will be internet runin only WIRELESSLY ! NO CABLES AT ALL JUST ONE CABLE SHOULD STAY acoording rght hand and that is
H-D-M-I !!!]]>Dec 8th 2009 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/You misspelled displayport
And incidentally HDMI| is going wireless too.
]]>Dec 8th 2009 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/i'll be pissed if it doesn't end! i mean with all this mass hysteria about it, something better go down!]]>Dec 8th 2009 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
Don't you need a XBOX Live gold membership for that? lol

What you should do is just buy a $299 PS3, get a wrt310n, setup a media server with PS3 media server, and stream MKV's!

HD answer solved.... for now.. ]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/a) No
b) That doesn't solve his problem. The PS3 has built-in a G wireless and if you've ever tried to stream HD to your PS3 over wifi, then you know that it's a long process. You basically have to wait an hour for a 2 hour movie to preload up enough to watch it without pausing. So, his "option" of buying a ~$80 addon to something he already has (for his 360), or $400 in new technology that still doesn't do what he wants...
c) You're an idiot.
4) lawlz]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Unless you're streaming from a dedicated media server with high processing power it lag's like a b*tch.
Find it easier to copy the files onto a sd card or just put in a disc.]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
Well, I was more thinking about a way to get media via TVersity from my PC to my xbox. I find with a cable connection, its fine. But as soon as it goes wireless, all kinds of problems crop up.]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/= a core 2 duo, and turn off any p2p software your running on the network.

PS3 Media Server is > TVersity, in my experience. PS3MS also works with XBMC, so anyone with a modded xbox or appleTV which can't play 1080p video natively can convert on the fly. I use Orb 2.0 for streaming over the web, which PS3MS currently does not support.]]>Dec 8th 2009 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
I stream HD movies to my PS3 all the time, and it sure as hell doesn't take an hour. I don't know what's wrong with your setup or computer skills.

The PS3's included G wifi adaptor is very handy. It really should have been included in the 360. If you really need that extra speed, you can always use ethernet, but I never seem to need to. I have nice pings on games and all my media flows quite nicely. It's not as good as blu-ray movies, of course, but if you want that kind of quality the PS3 is still your best option.

Now, if only the PS3 had some of those 360 exclusives...]]>Dec 8th 2009 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
In that case, you might try changing your router's frequency or find something that might be interfering with your signal. It also depends on how close you are to the router.

Either way, 1 Gbps brings ~125 MBps and even if we reach half of that, we are already pushing the write speeds on some hard drives right now. I'm down for that]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
It's really all relative though. Either your streaming works well or it doesn't...no matter what the numbers say you can SEE the difference. And the newer tech is generally faster than the older tech, however fast the older stuff might have been...]]>Dec 8th 2009 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/So we'd need more than 1gbps to do wireless HD video and audio right?

Unless it were compressed I guess...
]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/HDMI is a cable capable of 10Gbps.

HD content, does not require 10Gbps, is usually compressed into an .mkv container, which can cut the file size down dramatically.]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/(1920*1080) pixel per frame* 24 bits/pixel*30 frame per second= 1.492992 Gbps add to that 5 audio channel each 6.4 Mbps and it will be 1.524992 Gbps . Giving simple 2:1 or even 3:1 Lossless compression ratio; this can easily fit into 1Gbps channel easily even with overhead.]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/

Cool, thanks! Just curious, what codecs do lossless compression at that ratio? I'm talking about Dolby Master HD 7.1 channel audio, and a 1080p picture that has no visible compression artifacts. Feasable over 1gbps?]]>Dec 8th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
You won't get 1Gbps application-level throughput with the new standard. You'll probably be looking at around 400Mbps under good conditions.

The 1Gbps refers to raw theoretical maximum throughput. In 802.11g (which had a stated throughput of 54Mbps) the design of the MAC limited the achievable throughput to about 24Mbps, even under ideal conditions. In practice, of course, 5-6Mbps was usual. In 802.11n, the max theoretical throughput of 300Mbps in current devices (next gen will be 600) generally delivers about 40-70Mbps in common situations. This was due to improvements in the MAC and a general increasing of resource usage elsewhere (namely double width channels, spatial multiplexing and slightly more efficient modulation).

In conclusion, then, the chances of getting uncompressed HD over the new standard are almost nil.

@Chris Aversa

It's certainly going to be possible to stream excellent HD over 802.11n, let alone the new standard. A good quality Blu-ray typically delivers H.264 compressed video at < 40Mbps with imperceptible coding artefacts, so there's little point in insisting on uncompressed video. Even at 20Mbps and below, a good codec will produce excellent looking video even in the most demanding of sequences.

I'm not so sure about audio but it's almost certain that the required bitrate will be fairly insignificant compared with the video rate.]]>Dec 8th 2009 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
cause realistically with 50ft distances you can pass though two walls.

and then a secondary band much like the A band... repeating ability, and seamless networking.

ohh and under 200 bucks per device, and usb 2.0-3.0 dongles under 50 bucks.

what else... ]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
and cookies]]>Dec 8th 2009 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
Don't forget the 2 topless blondes and an Asian chick in a school girl uniform that have to deliver it to my door.]]>Dec 8th 2009 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
So before we know it, we will get 802.11wtf?]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11x#Standard_and_amendments]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
Like WiNet_I, WiNet_II, etc?

If you have branching formats for different reasons give them subcategories like WiNet_Admin_1?

I dunno. It's confusing either way with so many types. I'm still not sure what 'A' was and wonder about the other 20 letters I don't know about.]]>Dec 8th 2009 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
Are you kidding me? , i need 1gbps now:

1. Large capacity witless external Hard drives will be more logical. faster read/right, reasonable backup time.
2. REAL Wireless Display with Hi-Res
3. 1080p@30FPS steaming with about only 1:2 compression ]]>Dec 8th 2009 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
Yeah lol. I mean, we sure found plenty of uses for the 1 Gbps cabled connections... Why would wireless be any different? I'm still waiting for wireless HDMI or something so that the devices can "just work" without any video/audio cables. Oh, and voice control like in 'I, Robot', kthnx.]]>Dec 8th 2009 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
On a serious note, technology really gets old pretty fast. Just when I'm waiting for wireless n to drop this holidays. So as the other products this season. Oh well, I guess that's the life on the tech edge - living on a fast lane.]]>Dec 8th 2009 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Exactly, if the govt. would open up the 2.4 range a lot more , that would help resolve a lot of common issues. You could begin to use 2.4GHz with 40MHz channels for greater 802.11n speeds at further distances with less channel contention. I hope they do at some point, it would make my life so much easier. ]]>Dec 10th 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/Dec 8th 2009 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/ieee-will-push-next-802-11-to-1gbps-speeds-two-letter-designati/
Funny enough though, my college dorm's network is 10mbit, so my router doesn't limit the speed. Where we have wifi, it is usually 22mbit/s, as its on a 100mb uplink.

5GHZ clears up a lot of the spectrum congestion, but it also has even worse wall and building penetration than 2.4GHZ.]]>Dec 8th 2009 11:48AM