http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/ Engadget Comments for Apple countersues Nokia for infringing 13 patents http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/I think you mean Kyle Reese...]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/I believe I came up with the name Patient War, I'm sueing.]]>Dec 11th 2009 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
I really hope a whole bunch of companies due Apple at the same time. I'm talking big companies that have the money to throw at this, HP, Dell, Sony--everyone, I don't care how tenuous the charges. Those smug bastards deserve their own medicine.]]>Dec 11th 2009 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
I hope you're not fucking serious, because you just spelled patent like patient.]]>Dec 11th 2009 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 12th 2009 12:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 12th 2009 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
I lol'd , why should they steal nokia's statement o.O]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
"Good artists copy, great artists steal, and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." - Steve Jobs.

So..umm, your fucking point?]]>Dec 11th 2009 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
And "something good" is patentable? Well, if it's Apple we're talking about, it must be!

/s]]>Dec 11th 2009 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
If Apple does it, it means it is not theft. - Nixon]]>Dec 11th 2009 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/nokia didnt do anything wrong! apple's ass is aching because its going to be left behind.]]>Dec 12th 2009 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
With all the patents Apple has made, of which I doubt we will see products from, expect to see more and more lawsuits coming from Apple.]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Oh just wait for the 180 from the Apple kids on this one. They think Apple invented everything and have been hoping for them to sue everyone for years.

I'm also interested in hearing the terms "patent troll" being tossed about by those same folks at Apple.

Just go back to the original Nokia lawsuit thread and compare what you see from them there to what you will see here.]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
Nokia shouldn't have sued Apple in the first place !]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
"Nokia shouldn't have sued Apple in the first place !"

Why? Because their Apple and Nokia needs to realize that Apple is just sooooo awesome and needs to just leave them alone?]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Ever since jobs started taking time off that's slowly changing. Their most recent rape was at the hands of the FCC.]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
Oh yeah, you guys are totally right. Apple should just let Nokia infringe on its patents. LOL. Nokia obviously wasn't so generous, but you don't have any problem with that, do you? No, you only have a problem when Apple defends their patents. Not when anybody else does it. Just Apple.

And people think you two are braindead Apple haters. You sure proved them wrong!]]>Dec 11th 2009 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
"Oh just wait for the 180 from the Apple kids on this one. They think Apple invented everything and have been hoping for them to sue everyone for years."

hahahahahaha,

nobody thinks Apple invented everything.

it's just the rubes who drink the haterade that are convinced there are people out there believing Apple has invented "everything"



]]>Dec 11th 2009 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
You've never stumbled across places like AppleInsider, let alone roughlydrafted... ]]>Dec 11th 2009 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Its a countersuit, dumbass. Patent troll initiate patent suits. This is the same thing Apple did when Creative sued them for the "Zen patent."]]>Dec 11th 2009 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
I agree with the person who stated companies should stop suing. We should forget about patents, the system doesn't work and screws everybody over in the end. Either that or limit the patent to like a year. Let a company regain what it invested in developing the products, and then game on. Let the competition in. How many patents are created that never have products that come to life? This is stupid, pointless, and idiotic. Use it or don't. Apple is doing the same thing, patenting everything they can possibly think of lately, and I expect to see more stupid lawsuits coming from them because of this, with no products from them to show for it.]]>Dec 11th 2009 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
When someone comes up with a good idea, they deserve to profit from it if they choose to. Without that, there would be no incentive to invest in R&D and invent new things. Some people choose to allow others to use their ideas, but nobody should be forced to do that. I'm all for discussing alternatives to the patent system if you feel it's flawed – as long as it still protects inventors' ideas and investors' money.

As for Apple patenting everything under the sun, I'd be curious to see how often other companies patent ideas. Is Apple really patenting substantially more, or does an Apple patent just get more coverage? Regardless though, if you come up with an idea, it's your right to decide what to do with it. If you decide to do nothing for years or the entire life of the patent, that's your right, too.]]>Dec 11th 2009 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
""Patent Trolling" is the best 2 words a fanboy could ever put together.

While companies forcing others to pay for infringement is a bitch, it's called business. If I create something and patent it, even if it's a stupid piece of technology at the time or it may seem minuscule at the time, I have a right to protect that minuscule patent. EVERY company does this, even Apple."

I'm not rooting for a winner here, and I acknowledge that what these companies engage in while battling in court is indeed business, but I can't retract my belief that companies refrain from immaturity while doing so. My prime example for that is AT&T/Verizon.]]>Dec 11th 2009 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/These lawsuits are another form earning revenue. They flood with all the patents and then investigate which competitor is using the most similar DSP or the most simple touchscreen technology and then rain down wid shitloads of suits!
Its like registering for millions of .com domains and then in future cashing in on it. ]]>Dec 11th 2009 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Responding to a punch is different than throwing the first punch. Apple very rarely takes the predatory role on patent litigation. I can't really think of a single example in the "modern era" of Apple where they have set out to enforce patents. It's something that companies do when they are facing a downturn and need to make up lost revenue. Nokia has a pretty good case on some of these patents and so does Apple. In the end it certainly discourages other companies from suing Apple knowing they will likely have to cross-license technology. It makes the whole patent money grab lawsuit business model less appealing if the other side is going to fight back. ]]>Dec 12th 2009 4:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/as more and more people get off of apple's cock, apple will realize that its going sink quickly so they made all these fucking patents, and/but wont develop shit because theyre looking to make money from other companies who will "infringe"! FUCK YOU JOBS! and FUCK the rest of you who disagree, just fuck off!! i dont want to hear your butt aches!
nokia didnt do anything wrong!]]>Dec 12th 2009 7:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
You continue to bitch about Apple and their patents while blatantly ignoring the fact that Nokia sued Apple FIRST. For PATENT INFRINGEMENT. If you weren't such an apologist for every company Apple interacts with, you might be objective enough to see why your posts here are so hilariously bad.

Biased? No, not you. Clearly. In your world, Apple is the only company that does anything wrong, which is why you make sure to say as much every time you post anything. Like I said, hilarious.]]>Dec 13th 2009 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/hehe sorry guys i got carried away. it happens and will happen from time to time, just bear with it, thanks.]]>Dec 13th 2009 6:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
It's like saying you should fuck with your own rod, not theirs.]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
I think it's their original logo.
]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/
Thats logo from year 1865, maybe Nokia have bit more patent muscle than Apple on mobile world. Not saying that they made phones 100 years ago but still decades before Apple.]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/To put things in perspective....here is a quote from wikipedia:
"....Nokia had R&D presence in 16 countries and employed 39,350 people in research and development, representing approximately 31% of the group's total workforce."
According to Wikipedia Apple has about 35,000 employees in total.

In other words Nokia has invested more researchers and engineers into creating new innovative technologies than Apple's total employees put together. It is a very visionary, innovative, and flexible company. I can't wait to see what they will create in the future and this patent lawsuit is only the tip of the iceberg for their plan become a true contender in the smart phone market.]]>Dec 11th 2009 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 12th 2009 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Dec 11th 2009 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/apple-countersues-nokia-for-infringing-13-patents/Apple counter sue! 13HP, its super effective!]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:02AM