http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/]]>Dec 11th 2009 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Because they got comfortable with mediocrity until Apple came along. Now Apple is making more profit than they are in their own market space, and taking away their market share too. Clearly people don't want mediocrity, so Nokia is having to panic and re-do the way they do pretty much everything just to be able to compete.]]>Dec 11th 2009 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/"but you have got to wonder why they screwed up so badly."
Does over 100 handset models ring a bell? Nokia serves a greater amount of people across the entire globe and appeasing them all is not a simple task. ]]>Dec 11th 2009 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
"Third time is the charm" is pretty common idiom in Europe.. But does that mean everything they try now will go horribly wrong?]]>Dec 11th 2009 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 11:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/100 handsets that run the same operating system so there shouldn't be a problem there. nokia just screwed up thats all ]]>Dec 12th 2009 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 12th 2009 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Apple and Android are peanuts even though Nokia is failing with recent smartphones. Maemo is an improvement, but not in its current form.
I myself swapped to HTC Hero from 14 years of Nokia handsets. S60v5 Symbian was just too awful to use.]]>Dec 11th 2009 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Wrong again. Apple and Android have a better distribution platform, not a better development platform.]]>Dec 11th 2009 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/You have it mistaken if you think Nokia's platform is something to scoff at, compared to Apple and Google, Nokia has the good that the developer want. The problem is Nokia never had a good way of delivery.
I have been using Nokia's since they had black and white screens and if you ever wanted ringtones, themes, apps, games, etc you only have to
1. Open internet browser
2. Search "Nokia *insert model number*" and download from thousands of websites
3. Download to computer
4. Transfer to phone

Now that these App stores are becoming he new hotness Nokia is having to change it's game plan which is good for the consumer. ]]>Dec 11th 2009 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/nokia is changing its game plan about 5 years late]]>Dec 12th 2009 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
I guess, you haven't been following recent developments in Nokia camp.
The new Qt4.6 for Symbian will allow unified development of apps for Symbian, Maemo and Windows mobile, with little to no modifications.

When the new Symbian gets released, it will be much better than current scenario. However, there will still be several different types of models, with and without keyboards and touch or touchless, so the apps will still have to be written little separate for different functions. ]]>Dec 12th 2009 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Just like in Android (more or less a promise but okay)

Qt is the promise for it, so things will get better with the time when everything is going to be ported to that...

Lets hope the promise lives up :) (and it will)]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
You're right. For 2010 Nokia have already announced to cut their smartphone lineup in half.]]>Dec 11th 2009 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
“We had this jambalaya of services – Download, MOSH, WidSets,” he says.

“Looking at them, it was a very obvious decision that we needed to consolidate one place for consumers to go on our phones, put the full weight of our distribution behind it, and provide a single point of entry for publishers.”

http://www.mobile-ent.biz/features/234/Nokia-talks-Ovi-Store]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
It's a shame Engadget editors read no better than they write unbiased articles.]]>Dec 11th 2009 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
I think you should blame the source -financial times, since they are the ones that took the quote out of context, and which Engadget merely repeated.

@Mosk33toe
That quote implies the exact same thing Engadget wrote.
"the first version of Ovi Store consolidated an existing "jambalaya" of services."
That obviously is indicating the current version of the Ovi store, as this is current version is also the first version. Kem's linked source at least does show that Financial Times misquoted George.

And if they had included the bit about the Ovi store reaching a million downloads a day then they would have had to include the rest of that sentence which goes on to say that Ovi is "still lagging Apple, which had accumulated 2bn downloads by September, just over a year after it launched." A tasty bit of flame bait that the 'biased" Engadget chose to leave out.]]>Dec 11th 2009 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Nokia has done nothing right with Ovi store. And all the criticism is justified.

But they seem to be getting things right lately.
To name few:
-The launch of first handset using Maemo, N900.
-Planned overhaul of Symbian interface
-New release of Qt
-Nokia Messaging (works for europeans at least)

So I think they are moving in the right direction... Things continue this way we will go back to the days where Nokia was the name to go for.

At the end of the day competition will be Android x Maemo. ;)]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
There are no more Maemo 5 devices planned throughout 2010. Nokia's revamping the entire Symbian experience for it's new mobiles...]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/I am tired with this nokia crap. every year it seems like they are gonna revamp everything and yet its empty promises time and time again. after a while you just get tired of it after getting screwed over and over again. most recently the $600 N97 that's sitting in my drawer collecting dust. all the nokia hopefuls make the switch already and stop wasting ur money. ]]>Dec 12th 2009 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Also known as a "clusterfuck"]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Why? It's pretty horrific in its simplicity and lack of proper search engine. I'd expect a lot more from google. Way too AppStore-like.]]>Dec 11th 2009 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/I'm an Android fan, but I have no qualms saying the Android Market is crap in terms of usability. The search is what is lacking the most and the fact there is no desktop/browser version to browse for apps.

Good thin Android allows you to directly load apps from the browser, so there's other options.]]>Dec 11th 2009 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/]]>Dec 12th 2009 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
The current App Store is actually just using the web browser rendering engine. We need a proper full native client for app store purchases. The jerkyness in the store is mindnumbing... right now i;m just talking about the UI.

Searching is useless , The application management is pathetic ...
Thankfully Nokia is accepting its shortfalls.

A word of advice for Nokia , hurry up on your plans , the world wont wait.

We need the S60 redesign NOW. we need the new OVI store NOW !!!
]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
He must have left Nokia begging for mercy after one of his tweets, explaining the sudden haste to fix the company.]]>Dec 11th 2009 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Their NYC flagship store was a joke. I went in there with my N95 and they tried to shove it in a case for a different model nearly breaking it. And that bad service was after I interrupted the poser store staff's personal conversations.

My 2nd visit to the store was the same - the staff didn't care about the product so why would a customer.]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
The whole underlying idea behind "Ovi" is that Nokia thinks their customers need a "door" to the Internet and services. I think everyone else moved away from Internet portals a long time ago, but that is apparently the level of thinking by Nokia's senior management.]]>Dec 11th 2009 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/I am not sure I agree about the services part. I was a nokia user for the longest time but most recently with the N97 the service has been really really bad. I had to send my device 3 times and every time it came back like I sent it, not repaired. ]]>Dec 12th 2009 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/You should try out m.getjar.com on your handset]]>Dec 11th 2009 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
When you can work out how to activate your account you can call someone else a mess, honey. In the meantime hush how.]]>Dec 11th 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Too right!]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Jambalaya!]]>Dec 11th 2009 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 11th 2009 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/
Nokia, stop being a follower and act like a leader! Fix your software applications for your phones, as they say, "if you build it, they will come" right now not a lot of people are coming to the North America Ovi store!]]>Dec 11th 2009 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/nokia-taking-ovi-store-criticism-to-heart-planning-revamped-ver/Dec 12th 2009 12:01AM