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That's what you're saying,r ight?

Goggle is stupid.

They don't know what they're doing to themselves.

Uh huh.

Perhaps there's more to this than meets the eye, ya know?
]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
Google Owns everything on the internet now. They can cancel all google services for other phones and only allow it for this phone

AHAHAHHAH!

instand PWNAGE]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
One would think thats the case, but since they don't provide anything that there isn't an alternative for, I think people would eventually forget about them after some time.]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
Slap-happy bloggers have decided Google will sell the Nexus One standalone. No one from Google said they would.

I think this was as much a move to get Google employees off the iPhone (which they are abandoning)]]>Dec 15th 2009 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Not slap-happy bloggers, the Wall Street Journal.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703757404574592530591075444.html

You slap-happy commenter, you :)]]>Dec 15th 2009 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/wasn't the G1 also considered the Google Phone brand but sold by HTC, I'm sure this phone will also go the same way as the G1 since it was already manufactured by HTC. Google sure doesn't want to jeopardize it's market until it has secured 95% penetration and ousted most of it's competitors...]]>Dec 15th 2009 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
What company does sell products that there is no alternative for? Every product on the market today has an alternative: Windows/OS X, PS3/XBox 360/Wii, Ford/Chevy, etc.

It is called competition and it is something that Google has proven to be VERY good at.]]>Dec 15th 2009 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Michael has taken a US centric view and very succinctly outlined the pitfalls of Google launching its own phone. Even though I have been sceptical of the view that Google would indeed launch its own phone. Lately, some hard evidence has come forward, for example, the registration of the Trade mark 'Nexus One' by Google. See http://bit.ly/52UExD

However, there is some logic for Google branded phones:
1. Most manufacturers are skinning the Android with their own GUI. There exists a demand for an Android phone with the unchanged features. Google can fit in here.

2. Most manufacturers have made a token presence with Android OS. Majority of their devices still use other more established OS. Google can give that push for mass adoption of the Android OS globally.

3. Most manufacturers have been lagging behind in adopting the latest version of the Android OS. Google’s direct presence will bolster driver development and adoption of the latest versions of the Android OS.

4. Google is testing the 'Nexus One' world wide, so it is possible that it would launch the unlocked versions there (since unlocked phones are the norm rather than an exception in most of the global markets)

5. It is also, possible that Google could certify a certain category of phones from manufacturers as 'Nexus One" provided they meet its exacting software & hardware specifications and get the leverage of the Google brand.

Lastly, I think Google will be able to retain members of the Open Handset Alliance if it remains concurrently open to all of them about the future development of the Android OS.

]]>Dec 15th 2009 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/I think point #5 is spot on. That makes a lot of sense considering the hardware specs they established for Chrome OS. Plus one for you my friend!
]]>Dec 15th 2009 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 16th 2009 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/A very entelligestic opinion indeed, although I have a feeling that google is already seeing this scenario (they always do, don't they) It will be highly interesting to see this one plays out. Detailed overview Nexus Phone Updates: http://bit.ly/google-phone-reactions-opinion]]>Dec 16th 2009 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
They could actually make cost-price for the phone and unlimited data, since they'd be probably making money by search and advertising online through their virtual network users with cheap, fully integrated online experience on their mobile phone.

It's a bit over the top, but seems to me that it actually could work.
Keep your fingers crossed..]]>Dec 16th 2009 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
I'd say it was to boost smartphone sales, boosting the number of internet users by being able to be online everywhere, enlarging their revenue in online advertising.

I've got nothing against Google, and don't mind that much Google ads because they provide me email, rss reader and docs, and so on. So why couldn't they start providing cheap internet access? ]]>Dec 16th 2009 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
That is the quote from your WSJ report. These people they say claim that this is what they are doing. These people are not identified, or recognized in this article. My people told me that Rupert Murdoch, WSJ owner, propagandist, hates google for providing news links, and that Rupert Murdoch wants to create as much trouble for google as possible. My people also told me Murdoch works for Karl Rove and the Devil.

I believe my sources before the WSJ any day.]]>Dec 16th 2009 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 16th 2009 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/True, all Android device manufacturers (except Motorola), have been giving Android second stage, most powerful smarphones still being sold with the cumbersome WinMo, with extra effort being made to skin WinMo and hide it's ugliness from the customer.

Plus, HTC is going to manufacture it, Google will only do the marketing part.]]>Dec 16th 2009 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 20th 2009 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 24th 2009 12:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
Here's a different take, assuming that yes indeedy, Goog'll go retail: One of the problem with the current situation is platform fragmentation, as early units can't/won't always be upgraded to the current OS version.

What Goog can do is to sell direct a premium reference platform, as in one SKU only. It's premium because there is no subsidy. On the plus side, it will always have the latest Android upgrade along with the latest hardware, and it's unlocked, so no 2-year lock-in. This will appeal only to a small demog segment (early adopters), and won't fully compete with the subsidized models from the carriers.

With the high profile that the Goog phone will have, it will raise awareness among users about the latest Android features, and thus will increase pressure on carriers to keep pace with the OS advances. This admittedly is an iffy proposition, and there are some additional measures Goog can take to better preserve platform integrity. I won't go into those here.

Another strategy that a no-subsidy attempt would enable is for a high-profile drive--including both grass-roots pressure and lobbying for public policy changes--to demand a lower subscription rate for unsubsidized models, ala the anywhere-other-than-the-US model. One may point to Nokia as the folly of this move, but Goog has a much higher mindshare than Nokia, and Nokia never offered a capable open OS for smartphones. If Goog were to want to wrest the handset market away from the carriers, they can't do it w/o at least having an unsubsidized handset for sale.

So it is risky? That depends on how you measure the clout of the carriers. The balance of power has gradually been shifting from carriers to OS/handset makers, starting with the iPhone. And the move doesn't exclude the possibility of partnership with one of the smaller carriers (T-mobile or Sprint, say), either for the subsidized model, or for the unsubsidized/smaller subscription model.

It's not an either-or proposition. The carriers own the bandwidth, and whatever model is used, they will still make money from their bandwidth. Goog isn't a direct competitor because they don't own any bandwidth. It's an issue of control, and that can always be negotiated. I can see Goog providing both the OS and a handset (subsidized or no) w/o being a threat.

As a historical corollary, remember when Apple (briefly) had a clone market. The clones were more than happy to have Apple as the OS provider, and competing in segments that Apple didn't serve. Compared to this, Goog will have one SKU, serving a much smaller market.

The carriers are much like the Apple cloners of yore, in that most of them don't have a viable popular OS for the burgeoning smartphone market. Android has proven that it can compete with Apple's iPhone. So would you (the carrier) drop Android to go with Apple for even less control? Or would you chance it with something like WebOS/Bada/Maemo, or stick with good ol' WinMo? There's not a lot of choices, not if you want to sell smartphones w/ competitive features.

d00b]]>Dec 15th 2009 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/By releasing a Google phone to consumers Google would be admitting that their Android strategy so far had failed, plain and simple. If they came out with a device as you describe that would sell to just a few 100k customers it would still be some of the most profitable customers they're taking away from their partners. Even as we're speaking, these rumours are hurting Droid sales.]]>Dec 16th 2009 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 16th 2009 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
I just expected a little less drama queen than "A Google Phone could be the death of Android".]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
I totally agree. The more I read Michael Gartenberg's articles, the more I think he is on crack. Maybe its just me but I think his OP-ED pieces are complete crap.]]>Dec 15th 2009 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
agreed.]]>Dec 16th 2009 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 16th 2009 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
Having read previous articles by Gartenberg, my expectations were about as low as they could be.]]>Dec 16th 2009 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Yes, but there weren't other devices on the market at the time... ]]>Dec 15th 2009 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
AHAHHHA

mark of the beast is upon us!]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/There's always at least one of you, isn't there?]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
I don't know if you've realized it or not but based on your statement you actually proved something, the in reality the majority of the "market" you speak of is broke and needs to sign contracts to get a phone. Guess what, you can't afford the phone then. You either want or need this phone and from your comments just seems like you want it and can't afford.]]>Dec 15th 2009 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/I hope they catch you. For your own good

God speed
either that or you were wasted when you wrote his]]>Dec 16th 2009 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
I'm just waiting to see what happens. I personally don't have an interest in Android other than to see if it is the game changer people claim it is or will be.

I like Google and some of its products but I do think it gets a lot of leeway from people. So it will be interesting to see how people react to this move of theres.

People get angry at Apple for having just 1 phone with their 1 OS but here we have Google which is doing the exact same thing....yes there is the matter than other phone makers are using Android but I fail to see why Apple should be labeled the devil because they want control over the entire device.

IF Google wants to do the same thing then that's their prerogative and more power to them. I just don't want to hear people bitching about Apple and the iPhone (which they know they would never buy).]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
If you dont like the Google Phone, but love Android, then get any number of other Android-based devices.

like the iPhone OS, but hate the iPhone? Then you're SOL.]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
Your port LAY?

Everyone knows this upfront. If you don't like then OH WELL. Apple doesn't exist to please you. If you don't like what they are offering then MOVE ON and quit complaining.

That's all I'm saying.

The TRUTH is that nothing they do would please people like you or Mark. Apple could come out with the best phone ever tomorrow with all the bells and whistles yet you guys would still throw a fit because

1) It's locked down under Apple's rules
2) It has an apple on it.

And that's not fair. If you're all for open source more power to you...if Android is your thing then fine. BUT stop attacking Apple and Apple fanboys for loving their Apple products (including the iPhone).

The iPhone is the BEST phone I've ever owned personally I'm proud to carry one. It does everything I need and more. And I'm more than satisfied with it and AT&T (where I'm located).

That's the end of my rant. At the end of the day I don't hate Google or Android. I'm just sick of the real trolls like you mark who will always attack apple just out of pure spite, jealous, and anger over their success....]]>Dec 15th 2009 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
-bZj]]>Dec 15th 2009 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 16th 2009 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/
Perhaps you are out of the loop, but any moron with a couple hundred dollars can carry one. There is NOTHING to be proud of.]]>Dec 16th 2009 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Especially Arrington, he got in a frenzy about it. Just like he does for everything Google.]]>Dec 15th 2009 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/entelligence-a-google-phone-could-be-the-death-of-android/Dec 15th 2009 7:35PM